Talk:Back of the House - Revision history

Hoyifung04 at 21:23, 4 April 2013

2013-04-04T21:23:17Z

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	* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)		* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)
	* Actually, excluding villains, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2807\|+}}%.<br> You have a point though; I'm not sure, just assuming that hypothesis. I believe that unaffected was stated due to zones with full noncombats still having either random or static villains of their own. Or, if with modifiers you could get 100% noncombats in one location, villains would still get through, like the UR in the sky over TH for example.<br>In any case, regarding this area's combat chance, it should be easy to verify if 80% is the right number, just wear +20% combat chance modifiers and see if you get 0 noncombats. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:12, 4 April 2013 (PDT)		* Actually, excluding villains, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2807\|+}}%.<br> You have a point though; I'm not sure, just assuming that hypothesis. I believe that unaffected was stated due to zones with full noncombats still having either random or static villains of their own. Or, if with modifiers you could get 100% noncombats in one location, villains would still get through, like the UR in the sky over TH for example.<br>In any case, regarding this area's combat chance, it should be easy to verify if 80% is the right number, just wear +20% combat chance modifiers and see if you get 0 noncombats. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:12, 4 April 2013 (PDT)
			* I've been excluding Villains from my combat rate spading. Well, for the three or four locations where I've actually adventured without combat modifiers. --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04\|talk]]) 14:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)

Patojonas at 15:12, 4 April 2013

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	* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)		* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)
			* Actually, excluding villains, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2807\|+}}%.<br> You have a point though; I'm not sure, just assuming that hypothesis. I believe that unaffected was stated due to zones with full noncombats still having either random or static villains of their own. Or, if with modifiers you could get 100% noncombats in one location, villains would still get through, like the UR in the sky over TH for example.<br>In any case, regarding this area's combat chance, it should be easy to verify if 80% is the right number, just wear +20% combat chance modifiers and see if you get 0 noncombats. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:12, 4 April 2013 (PDT)

XKiv at 11:23, 4 April 2013

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	Combat chances is {{statrate\|3682\|2917\|+}}%, coherent with all adventures having even chances 1/5 [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 12:24, 3 April 2013 (PDT)		Combat chances is {{statrate\|3682\|2917\|+}}%, coherent with all adventures having even chances 1/5 [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 12:24, 3 April 2013 (PDT)

			* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)

Patojonas: combat chances data

2013-04-03T19:24:31Z

combat chances data

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Out of 3682 adventures, I got:
* 680 capos
* 714 guards
* 714 launderers
* 699 orbs
* 765 noncombats
* 110 villains

Combat chances is {{statrate|3682|2917|+}}%, coherent with all adventures having even chances 1/5 [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:24, 3 April 2013 (PDT)

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	* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)		* do we know that villains only hapen on "combat" encounters (i.e. game first rolls combat/noncombat, and villains are only possible on a "combat")? Because that would slightly contradict the "Villain appearance is unaffected by Combat chance modifiers." on [[Villains]]. Also, if villains are rolled separately, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2917\|+}}%. (simple check: get another large sample of noncombat rate with villains disabled, use a test like the one on http://onlinestatbook.com/2/estimation/difference_means.html to see whether the difference is likely to be close to the villains/total ratio) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 04:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)
	* Actually, excluding villains, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2807\|+}}%.<br> You have a point though; I'm not sure, just assuming that hypothesis. I believe that unaffected was stated due to zones with full noncombats still having either random or static villains of their own. Or, if with modifiers you could get 100% noncombats in one location, villains would still get through, like the UR in the sky over TH for example.<br>In any case, regarding this area's combat chance, it should be easy to verify if 80% is the right number, just wear +20% combat chance modifiers and see if you get 0 noncombats. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:12, 4 April 2013 (PDT)		* Actually, excluding villains, combat chances would be {{statrate\|3572\|2807\|+}}%.<br> You have a point though; I'm not sure, just assuming that hypothesis. I believe that unaffected was stated due to zones with full noncombats still having either random or static villains of their own. Or, if with modifiers you could get 100% noncombats in one location, villains would still get through, like the UR in the sky over TH for example.<br>In any case, regarding this area's combat chance, it should be easy to verify if 80% is the right number, just wear +20% combat chance modifiers and see if you get 0 noncombats. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:12, 4 April 2013 (PDT)
			* I've been excluding Villains from my combat rate spading. Well, for the three or four locations where I've actually adventured without combat modifiers. --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04\|talk]]) 14:23, 4 April 2013 (PDT)