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Valmo: Progress made on the xp scaling. The equations work but are hideous.

2011-11-04T06:12:34Z

Progress made on the xp scaling. The equations work but are hideous.

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	~~Looks like~~ the ~~original plan~~ of ~~grabbing data points~~ and ~~then making them work~~ with the ~~known cap~~ isn't ~~going~~ to ~~work right~~ (~~especially when I forget about~~ +~~xp gear equipped.~~)~~. So~~ to ~~fix that mess I transmogrified my combat item farmers and after 83 visits at~~ level ~~1 I~~'~~m looking at a range of 35-41xp which was a lot odder than~~ I ~~had hoped. This will~~ probably ~~take~~ a week or ~~more~~ to ~~get sorted though but it will get nailed down~~. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 15:57, ~~13 October~~ 2011 (PDT)		I'm going to go on record to say I regret ever having the genius idea of trying to figure out the xp range for this adventure. It reaches the cap of 80-95xp when you reach level 8, and so onward to the ranges observed for levels 1 to 7:
			{\|cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=1
			\|-
			\| '''Level''' \|\| '''XP Range'''
			\|-
			\| 1 \|\| 35-41
			\|-
			\| 2 \|\| 41-49
			\|-
			\| 3 \|\| 48-56
			\|-
			\| 4 \|\| 54-64
			\|-
			\| 5 \|\| 61-72
			\|-
			\| 6 \|\| 67-80
			\|-
			\| 7 \|\| 74-87
			\|-
			\| 8 \|\| 80-95
			\|}
			The basic details are at least 100 instances of the adventure were observed at each level if not more as was the case for later levels where survival was more feasible. Given the nature of the RNG even with 100+ instances per level there is a chance I missed the low or high values on this. So grain of salt and other such disclaimers.

			I'm more inclined to put the table above into the actual page because while I did get a pair of equations that fit with the ranges observed it isn't exactly user friendly. With that said the range I observed is approximately [(45/7)x + (200/7)] to [(54/7)x + (233/7)] where x is equal to your level. Beautiful isn't it? If anyone is feeling mathematically inclined and can make that look more presentable that would be appreciated.

			With that said I am going to leave this here for probably a week or so just to see if anybody has any input on this. If there are no objections during that period I'll put the table on the entry page and consider this adventure done for the time being. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:12, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

Valmo: ~

2011-10-13T22:57:47Z

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	~~Well doing a retcon made this a lot easier from a survival stand point~~. I ~~observed:<br>Level~~ 1 ~~- 35 to 50<br>Level 2 - 40 to 55<br>Level 3 - 45 to 60<br>Level 4 - 50 to 65<br>At this rate I think~~ I'~~ll hit the cap~~ at ~~level 10. The zero skill alt was terrible for testing this though so thankfully there's retcon. -~~-~~[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:21, 12 October 2011 (PDT)~~		Looks like the original plan of grabbing data points and then making them work with the known cap isn't going to work right (especially when I forget about +xp gear equipped.). So to fix that mess I transmogrified my combat item farmers and after 83 visits at level 1 I'm looking at a range of 35-41xp which was a lot odder than I had hoped. This will probably take a week or more to get sorted though but it will get nailed down. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 15:57, 13 October 2011 (PDT)

	~~Level 5 threw the pattern off though with 63-72. When I hit 72~~ which was ~~outside what I expected I hopped to level 6 and in the short time~~ I had ~~left observed 68-79. Looks like I am back to square one on this~~. ~~I'll~~ take a ~~few passes~~ to ~~try and iron this mess I have. As a sidenote~~ though ~~when I equipped my kilt to buy a little more time with flounce I encounter Alphabet Soup instead~~. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:41, 12 October 2011 (PDT)

Valmo: Derailed

2011-10-13T06:41:09Z

Derailed

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	Well doing a retcon made this a lot easier from a survival stand point. I observed:<br>Level 1 - 35 to 50<br>Level 2 - 40 to 55<br>Level 3 - 45 to 60<br>Level 4 - 50 to 65<br>At this rate I think I'll hit the cap at level 10. The zero skill alt was terrible for testing this though so thankfully there's retcon. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:21, 12 October 2011 (PDT)		Well doing a retcon made this a lot easier from a survival stand point. I observed:<br>Level 1 - 35 to 50<br>Level 2 - 40 to 55<br>Level 3 - 45 to 60<br>Level 4 - 50 to 65<br>At this rate I think I'll hit the cap at level 10. The zero skill alt was terrible for testing this though so thankfully there's retcon. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:21, 12 October 2011 (PDT)

			Level 5 threw the pattern off though with 63-72. When I hit 72 which was outside what I expected I hopped to level 6 and in the short time I had left observed 68-79. Looks like I am back to square one on this. I'll take a few passes to try and iron this mess I have. As a sidenote though when I equipped my kilt to buy a little more time with flounce I encounter Alphabet Soup instead. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:41, 12 October 2011 (PDT)

Valmo: Fixed previous entry as the main account was better suited.

2011-10-13T06:21:19Z

Fixed previous entry as the main account was better suited.

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	I observed 35-~~45xp at level 1 and~~ 40-~~50xp at level 2 on an alt. Working backwards from the known cap~~ I think the ~~experience gained is probably 30-40xp + (5*Level)xp~~. The ~~area is brutal at such a low level~~ so ~~data isn't as quick as I~~'~~d like~~. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 22:43, 12 October 2011 (PDT)		Well doing a retcon made this a lot easier from a survival stand point. I observed:<br>Level 1 - 35 to 50<br>Level 2 - 40 to 55<br>Level 3 - 45 to 60<br>Level 4 - 50 to 65<br>At this rate I think I'll hit the cap at level 10. The zero skill alt was terrible for testing this though so thankfully there's retcon. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:21, 12 October 2011 (PDT)

Valmo: Potential xp amount.

2011-10-13T05:43:07Z

Potential xp amount.

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	--[[User:Delassa\|Delassa]]		--[[User:Delassa\|Delassa]]


			I observed 35-45xp at level 1 and 40-50xp at level 2 on an alt. Working backwards from the known cap I think the experience gained is probably 30-40xp + (5*Level)xp. The area is brutal at such a low level so data isn't as quick as I'd like. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 22:43, 12 October 2011 (PDT)

Delassa at 18:26, 4 February 2011

2011-02-04T18:26:18Z

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	Not sure on how to spade the XP for these so I'll just put it here I got 82 XP from this encounter.		Not sure on how to spade the XP for these so I'll just put it here I got 82 XP (LVL 9 Gadgeteer) from this encounter.

	Also caught this in chat so I'm guessing they will change in the next few days.		Also caught this in chat so I'm guessing they will change in the next few days.

Delassa: Created page with "Not sure on how to spade the XP for these so I'll just put it here I got 82 XP from this encounter. Also caught this in chat so I'm guessing they will change in the next few day..."

2011-02-04T18:25:26Z

Created page with "Not sure on how to spade the XP for these so I'll just put it here I got 82 XP from this encounter. Also caught this in chat so I'm guessing they will change in the next few day..."

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Not sure on how to spade the XP for these so I'll just put it here I got 82 XP from this encounter.

Also caught this in chat so I'm guessing they will change in the next few days.

[Normal] Kurg: WOW

[Normal] Kurg: 205 xp at level 2

[Normal] Kurg: Not sure if that was intentional or not :)

[Normal] Ryme: ah, carp. Probably needs to scale like the cube does

[Normal] Kurg: Thing is the Cube needs unlocking, this just needs range 4

[Normal] Ryme: yes, so it definitely needs to scale

--[[User:Delassa|Delassa]]