Talk:Extra attacks - Revision history

Cristiona at 06:50, 17 February 2011

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	Might sound silly, but how do extra ranged attacks help? I mean for example I have a hammer that seems to do the same damage as a ranged weapon with the same power level(so it doesn't seem to have 2x damage?), with the bow having a +1 ranged attack. Is it a to hit thing? Are crit chances calculated for each it?		Might sound silly, but how do extra ranged attacks help? I mean for example I have a hammer that seems to do the same damage as a ranged weapon with the same power level(so it doesn't seem to have 2x damage?), with the bow having a +1 ranged attack. Is it a to hit thing? Are crit chances calculated for each it?
			:Extra ranged attacks help by being extra attacks. What's better? One chance to hit for 10 or two chances to hit for 10 each? It's not exactly a straight comparison, especially at lower levels, because melee weapons get bonus damage based on your strength, which might be why a lower-powered melee does the same damage as two attacks from a ranged weapon. [[User:Cristiona\|Cristiona]]

The Gannet at 04:28, 17 February 2011

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	Furnace, spoon, keyed up and 921+ reflexes, as good as it gets atm. Guess there's no ultimate ceiling...so far. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]		Furnace, spoon, keyed up and 921+ reflexes, as good as it gets atm. Guess there's no ultimate ceiling...so far. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]

			Might sound silly, but how do extra ranged attacks help? I mean for example I have a hammer that seems to do the same damage as a ranged weapon with the same power level(so it doesn't seem to have 2x damage?), with the bow having a +1 ranged attack. Is it a to hit thing? Are crit chances calculated for each it?

Patojonas at 20:43, 19 December 2010

2010-12-19T20:43:05Z

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	''You attack ... you sweep your weapon back and forth, doing a weird sort of spraying motion. You don't know if that helped you hit 16 times or not, but it made you feel better. Your opponent? Not so much. They're left hurting for 19143 +50 damage.''		''You attack ... you sweep your weapon back and forth, doing a weird sort of spraying motion. You don't know if that helped you hit 16 times or not, but it made you feel better. Your opponent? Not so much. They're left hurting for 19143 +50 damage.''

	Furnace, spoon, keyed up and 921+ reflexes, as good as it gets atm. Guess there's no ultimate ceiling...so far.		Furnace, spoon, keyed up and 921+ reflexes, as good as it gets atm. Guess there's no ultimate ceiling...so far. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]

Patojonas at 20:39, 19 December 2010

2010-12-19T20:39:52Z

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			''You attack ... you sweep your weapon back and forth, doing a weird sort of spraying motion. You don't know if that helped you hit 16 times or not, but it made you feel better. Your opponent? Not so much. They're left hurting for 19143 +50 damage.''

			Furnace, spoon, keyed up and 921+ reflexes, as good as it gets atm. Guess there's no ultimate ceiling...so far.

Shikao at 12:19, 15 December 2010

2010-12-15T12:19:36Z

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	::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)		::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)
	::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)		::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)
			::::Patojonas was so kind to spade missing points! =] Project finished, time to move onto next one. --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 04:19, 15 December 2010 (PST)

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Shikao at 20:11, 14 December 2010

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	:::Ah, [http://www.twilightheroes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9447#p9447 here's] the post Cris mentioned! No longer buried! --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] 19:34, 14 November 2010 (PST)		:::Ah, [http://www.twilightheroes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9447#p9447 here's] the post Cris mentioned! No longer buried! --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] 19:34, 14 November 2010 (PST)
	::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)		::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)
			::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)

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Shikao: new data

2010-12-12T22:02:12Z

new data

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Hoyifung04: oops... number of /extra/ attacks... also, max is 8 hits (7 extra)

2010-12-09T00:01:17Z

oops... number of /extra/ attacks... also, max is 8 hits (7 extra)

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Hoyifung04: 440 = 5

2010-12-08T22:22:48Z

440 = 5

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Shikao: breakpoint for 1st bonus attack

2010-11-16T22:10:20Z

breakpoint for 1st bonus attack

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	::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)		::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)
	::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)		::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)
			::::Patojonas was so kind to spade missing points! =] Project finished, time to move onto next one. --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 04:19, 15 December 2010 (PST)

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	:::Ah, [http://www.twilightheroes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9447#p9447 here's] the post Cris mentioned! No longer buried! --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] 19:34, 14 November 2010 (PST)		:::Ah, [http://www.twilightheroes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9447#p9447 here's] the post Cris mentioned! No longer buried! --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] 19:34, 14 November 2010 (PST)
	::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)		::::Thanks for unburying that post hoyifung! It gives a great insight. I will need completely different approach to spade damage per attack, cause damage diminish with each attack. As for criticals, I have similar conclusion - crits have one attack less than current maximum (counting weapon bonus) and deals double damage. Also thanks for all the data, now let's see what it tells us.--[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 23:46, 14 November 2010 (PST)
			::::Tons of new data thanks to [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]]! =D Just 3 more points spaded and table will be completed. I put my educated guesses in (). Thank you very much again Patojonas! --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 12:11, 14 December 2010 (PST)

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