Talk:Fighting Robots - Revision history

Patojonas: more data

2014-01-13T23:34:18Z

more data

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	And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)		And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)
	: Updated the table with 74 new adventures, if anything, values seem to get closer to the theoretical values. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:01, 18 August 2013 (PDT)		: Updated the table with 74 new adventures, if anything, values seem to get closer to the theoretical values. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:01, 18 August 2013 (PDT)
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			Another big chunk of data tracked by the script:

			:lanky robot\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|1225\|207\|+}}
			:lanky robot\|fusion pack {{statrate\|1225\|74\|+}}
			:lanky robot\|titanium plating {{statrate\|1225\|396\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|1155\|183\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|fusion pack {{statrate\|1155\|67\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|titanium plating {{statrate\|1155\|388\|+}}
			:robot crawler\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|853\|281\|+}}
			:robot crawler\|plasteel plating {{statrate\|853\|160\|+}}
			:robotic gunboat\|plasteel plating {{statrate\|442\|65\|+}}
			:robotic gunboat\|enerbun globule:
			:: 0 - 193
			:: 1 - 201
			:: 2 - 48

			lanky:1225

			treaded:1155

			crawler:853

			gunboat:442

			49 openings =>735 bots on the 1st day dropping fusion packs

			merging lanky and treaded data - 2380
			: titanium plating - 187 ->{{statrate\|2380\|784\|+}}%
			: fusion pack - 141 ->{{statrate\|735\|141\|+}}%
			: enerbun - 390 ->{{statrate\|1645\|390\|+}}%

			Regarding enerbun drop rates for robotic gunboats:

			:{\| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1" align="left" style="text-align:center"
			\|-
			! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops
			\|-
			\| Observed \|\| {{statrate\|442\|193\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|442\|201\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|442\|48\|+}}%
			\|-
			\| Predicted (35%)
			\| {{#expr: (1-0.35)(1-0.35)100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 20.35(1-0.35)*100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 0.350.35100}}%
			\|}<br clear="all">

			There are a few variations comparing to previous data. Since this is more recent and was tracked by a script and not me on paper sheets, I'll trust this data over my previous and replace the order data [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 15:34, 13 January 2014 (PST)

Patojonas: /* Scaling */ Day 3 scaling formula

2013-10-18T21:21:12Z

Scaling: Day 3 scaling formula

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	Need data from another level to decide the 3rd day scaling [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:58, 15 October 2013 (PDT)		Need data from another level to decide the 3rd day scaling [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:58, 15 October 2013 (PDT)

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			Level 14 Gadgeteer Strength: 99 Intellect: 95 Reflexes: 84

			Day 1 XP:72,73,75,76,77,79,83,84
			<br>5Level-6Level

			Day 2 XP:84,86,87,89,91,94,96,97
			<br>6Level-7Level

			Day 3 XP:119,121,124,125,126,128,129,131,132,133

			Comparing with the previous data set, Day 3 is <code>9*Level±(Level/2)</code> [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 14:21, 18 October 2013 (PDT)

	== Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==		== Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==

Patojonas: /* Scaling */

2013-10-15T15:58:27Z

Scaling

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 or ex3: lanky robot t hits you for 12 + 36 (fire) damage. 296xp
 [[User:The Gannet|The Gannet]]
 == Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==

Patojonas: moving TOC to the top

2013-08-18T15:04:52Z

moving TOC to the top

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			__TOC__

	On the first day of the robot invasion, after you defeat 15 robots (I only got lanky and treaded types), you get a message:<br>		On the first day of the robot invasion, after you defeat 15 robots (I only got lanky and treaded types), you get a message:<br>
	Silence. You look around, but no more robots seem to be moving anywhere in the space station. Scrap metal and scorch marks are all you see. [[image:station-lobby.jpg]]<br clear="all">		Silence. You look around, but no more robots seem to be moving anywhere in the space station. Scrap metal and scorch marks are all you see. [[image:station-lobby.jpg]]<br clear="all">

Patojonas: updating robotic gunboat enerbun table

2013-08-18T15:01:51Z

updating robotic gunboat enerbun table

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	! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops		! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops
	\|-		\|-
	\| Observed \|\| {{statrate\|~~277~~\|~~123~~\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|~~277~~\|~~126~~\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|~~277~~\|28\|+}}%		\| Observed \|\| {{statrate\|351\|153\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|351\|158\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|351\|40\|+}}%
	\|-		\|-
	\| Predicted (35%)		\| Predicted (35%)
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	And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)		And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)
			: Updated the table with 74 new adventures, if anything, values seem to get closer to the theoretical values. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:01, 18 August 2013 (PDT)

Patojonas: drop rates data and analysis

2012-12-22T17:18:26Z

drop rates data and analysis

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	* Adventure 14: [[The Only Thing Worse than a Love Triangle is a Hate Triangle]]		* Adventure 14: [[The Only Thing Worse than a Love Triangle is a Hate Triangle]]
	Share your experience.--[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 22:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)		Share your experience.--[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 22:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

			== Drop Spadings ==

			I recorded these across retcons, and deliberately escaped some foes in order to get even amounts of all bots.

			*Lanky robots - 281
			: titanium plating - 99
			: fusion pack - 25
			: enerbun - 33


			*Treaded robots - 284
			: titanium plating - 88
			: fusion pack - 29
			: enerbun - 38


			*Robotic crawler - 282
			: plasteel plating - 46 -> {{statrate\|282\|46\|+}}%
			: enerbun - 100 -> {{statrate\|282\|100\|+}}%


			*Robotic gunboat - 277
			: plasteel plating - 64 -> {{statrate\|277\|64\|+}}%
			: enerbun:
			:: 0 - 123
			:: 1 - 126
			:: 2 - 28

			Which totals 1124 fights.<br>Each station opening presents us with 15+25+35= 75 robots in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd days of the invasion.<br>This means that I missed recording 1 of them, since 1125/75=15 openings.

			Only after a few runs did I notice that for the lanky and treaded robots the fusion pack only drops in the first day, being replaced in the following days by enerbun.<br>This would have screwed over my spadings if these 2 bots data weren't so alike and if they weren't the only bots on day 1.<br>Therefore I'll merge their data, resulting in the following:

			*Lanky+ Treaded robots - 565
			: titanium plating - 187 ->{{statrate\|565\|187\|+}}%
			: fusion pack - 54
			: enerbun - 71

			Since it took 15 openings, that means 15*15= 225 of these were fought on day 1, which results in a fusion pack drop rate of {{statrate\|225\|54\|+}}%.<br>The remaining 340 were fought on day 2 and 3, and therefore the enerbun drop rate for these bots is {{statrate\|340\|71\|+}}%

			Regarding enerbun drop rates for robotic gunboats:

			(table stolen from [[Talk:Surly_gambler\|here]]):

			:{\| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1" align="left" style="text-align:center"
			\|-
			! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops
			\|-
			\| Observed \|\| {{statrate\|277\|123\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|277\|126\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|277\|28\|+}}%
			\|-
			\| Predicted (35%)
			\| {{#expr: (1-0.35)(1-0.35)100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 20.35(1-0.35)*100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 0.350.35100}}%
			\|}<br clear="all">

			And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)

The Gannet at 20:59, 23 June 2011

2011-06-23T20:59:31Z

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	a small amount of scaling spading input		a small amount of scaling spading input
			at level 30 1142hp str:312, int:253, ref:385 362pp lvl30 816819xp
	I'm getting things like		I'm getting things like

	ex: 271 from the crawler ~~at level 30 1142hp str:312, int:253, ref:385 362pp lvl30 816819xp~~		ex: 271 from the crawler
	and its doing 23 + 23 (sonic) damage.		and its doing 23 + 23 (sonic) damage.

	or ex2: robotic gunboat doing . It hits you for 17 + 52 (fire) damage. giving ~~277xp~~		or ex2: robotic gunboat doing . It hits you for 21 + 62 (fire) damage. giving 280xp

	or ex3: lanky robot t hits you for 12 + 36 (fire) damage. 296xp		or ex3: lanky robot t hits you for 12 + 36 (fire) damage. 296xp

The Gannet at 20:57, 23 June 2011

2011-06-23T20:57:59Z

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	On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~111-119. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly. I had 5% XP bonus --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~111-119. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly. I had 5% XP bonus --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


			a small amount of scaling spading input
			I'm getting things like

			ex: 271 from the crawler at level 30 1142hp str:312, int:253, ref:385 362pp lvl30 816819xp
			and its doing 23 + 23 (sonic) damage.

			or ex2: robotic gunboat doing . It hits you for 17 + 52 (fire) damage. giving 277xp

			or ex3: lanky robot t hits you for 12 + 36 (fire) damage. 296xp
			[[User:The Gannet\|The Gannet]]

	== Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==		== Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==

Muhandes: /* Number of robots between adventures on day 4 */ new section

2009-06-08T22:57:52Z

Number of robots between adventures on day 4: new section

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	On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~111-119. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly. I had 5% XP bonus --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~111-119. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly. I had 5% XP bonus --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

			== Number of robots between adventures on day 4 ==

			This is my experience:
			* Adventure 1: [[Hey, There's Nobody Driving that Canoe!]]
			* Adventure 2: [[Beachcomber]]
			* Adventure 3: [[More than Meats the Eye]]
			* Adventure 4: [[Beachcomber]]
			* Adventure 5: [[A Bridge Over Troubled Waters]]
			* Adventure 6-11: Robots
			* Adventure 12: [[Plot Exposition in 60 Seconds]]
			* Adventure 13: [[Elementary My Dear OmegaTron]]
			* Adventure 14: [[The Only Thing Worse than a Love Triangle is a Hate Triangle]]
			Share your experience.--[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 22:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Muhandes at 21:35, 7 June 2009

2009-06-07T21:35:09Z

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	== Scaling ==		== Scaling ==

	On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~~116~~. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly--[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		On day 1 and 2 I got about 70 XP. On day 3 ~111-119. Stats 35/101/42. Sadly I didn't write exactly. I had 5% XP bonus --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 21:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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	And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)		And 35% fits the data remarkably well, considering how small my sample is. Let me know if you disagree with my analysis. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] ([[User talk:Patojonas\|talk]]) 09:18, 22 December 2012 (PST)
	: Updated the table with 74 new adventures, if anything, values seem to get closer to the theoretical values. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:01, 18 August 2013 (PDT)		: Updated the table with 74 new adventures, if anything, values seem to get closer to the theoretical values. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 08:01, 18 August 2013 (PDT)
			----

			Another big chunk of data tracked by the script:

			:lanky robot\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|1225\|207\|+}}
			:lanky robot\|fusion pack {{statrate\|1225\|74\|+}}
			:lanky robot\|titanium plating {{statrate\|1225\|396\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|1155\|183\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|fusion pack {{statrate\|1155\|67\|+}}
			:treaded robot\|titanium plating {{statrate\|1155\|388\|+}}
			:robot crawler\|enerbun globule {{statrate\|853\|281\|+}}
			:robot crawler\|plasteel plating {{statrate\|853\|160\|+}}
			:robotic gunboat\|plasteel plating {{statrate\|442\|65\|+}}
			:robotic gunboat\|enerbun globule:
			:: 0 - 193
			:: 1 - 201
			:: 2 - 48

			lanky:1225

			treaded:1155

			crawler:853

			gunboat:442

			49 openings =>735 bots on the 1st day dropping fusion packs

			merging lanky and treaded data - 2380
			: titanium plating - 187 ->{{statrate\|2380\|784\|+}}%
			: fusion pack - 141 ->{{statrate\|735\|141\|+}}%
			: enerbun - 390 ->{{statrate\|1645\|390\|+}}%

			Regarding enerbun drop rates for robotic gunboats:

			:{\| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1" align="left" style="text-align:center"
			\|-
			! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops
			\|-
			\| Observed \|\| {{statrate\|442\|193\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|442\|201\|+}}% \|\| {{statrate\|442\|48\|+}}%
			\|-
			\| Predicted (35%)
			\| {{#expr: (1-0.35)(1-0.35)100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 20.35(1-0.35)*100}}%
			\| {{#expr: 0.350.35100}}%
			\|}<br clear="all">

			There are a few variations comparing to previous data. Since this is more recent and was tracked by a script and not me on paper sheets, I'll trust this data over my previous and replace the order data [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 15:34, 13 January 2014 (PST)