Talk:Gandiva's Charm - Revision history

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2012-01-03T16:18:56Z

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	After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
	:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)		:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)
	::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?)		::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] 08:18, 3 January 2012 (PST)

XKiv at 16:18, 3 January 2012

2012-01-03T16:18:36Z

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	After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
	:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)		:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)
			::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?)

Valmo: ~

2012-01-03T02:31:40Z

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	After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
			:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)

Valmo: More correct than last time.

2012-01-01T07:02:47Z

More correct than last time.

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	~~In addition to~~ the ~~instant kill observed with lightning there~~ is ~~also an outcome involving~~ thunder:		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
	:You attack ... leading off with the Nutcracker's signature headbutt, you daze your foe ... you take aim and fire, scoring 11 bull's eyes in a row. Assuming you're fighting a bull. Since you probably aren't, you get 11 shoggoth's eyes. Ouch. After being shot for 187 + 2 + 187 damage, they're not looking so good.
	~~The interesting thing is that that resulting~~ sonic damage ~~was~~ equal to the physical damage ~~as the target was a shoggoth which is resistant to all forms~~ of ~~damage. So either~~ the sonic ~~damage~~ is ~~equal~~ to the ~~physical damage and not impacted by resistances or the sonic damage is double~~ the physical ~~damage and impacted by resistances~~. I'll see ~~what results~~ with ~~future uses~~. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 22:07, 31 December 2011 (PST)

Valmo: Thunder result could use more data.

2012-01-01T06:07:25Z

Thunder result could use more data.

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In addition to the instant kill observed with lightning there is also an outcome involving thunder:
:You attack ... leading off with the Nutcracker's signature headbutt, you daze your foe ... you take aim and fire, scoring 11 bull's eyes in a row. Assuming you're fighting a bull. Since you probably aren't, you get 11 shoggoth's eyes. Ouch. After being shot for 187 + 2 + 187 damage, they're not looking so good.
The interesting thing is that that resulting sonic damage was equal to the physical damage as the target was a shoggoth which is resistant to all forms of damage. So either the sonic damage is equal to the physical damage and not impacted by resistances or the sonic damage is double the physical damage and impacted by resistances. I'll see what results with future uses. --[[User:Valmo|Valmo]] 22:07, 31 December 2011 (PST)

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	After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
	:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)		:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)
	::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?)		::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?) --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] 08:18, 3 January 2012 (PST)

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	After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)		After trying on an assortment of other targets it looks like whenever the result is thunder it will add sonic damage equal to the physical damage of your attack and the bonus sonic is subject to any sonic resistance the foe has. I kinda forgot the shoggoth also has 50% resistance to physical. I'll see if I can get it to trigger against a physically immune target to check if that has anything odd to go with it. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 23:02, 31 December 2011 (PST)
	:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)		:Used versus clockwork mishmash and while it isn't physically immune it was still helpful. The bonus sonic damage is determined before resistances are applied. The crucial thing now is if the thunder or lightning result is random or predetermined. I've only observed lightning against things that were easy kills to start. All uses in the dreamer's clock areas and the castle have resulted in thunder. --[[User:Valmo\|Valmo]] 18:31, 2 January 2012 (PST)
			::Maybe the trigger is that you would have one-shotted with thunder, so you get a different message (and maybe a different hidden effect - XP? less time spent? just the message? better item drops? ...?)