http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/Talk:Grumpy_old_smuggler/history?feed=atomTalk:Grumpy old smuggler - Revision history2026-05-14T11:13:35ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.42.3http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grumpy_old_smuggler&diff=27984&oldid=prevJesus: /* Data */2009-09-19T04:12:22Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Data</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Based on enerbun drops in the Delta. All +item stuff is from equipment. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Smart money's on </del>50%<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Will add to this later</del>. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 04:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">09</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">14 </del>September 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Based on enerbun drops in the Delta. All +item stuff is from equipment. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Aaand... +</ins>50% <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it is</ins>. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 04:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">12</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">19 </ins>September 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Muhandeshttp://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grumpy_old_smuggler&diff=27978&oldid=prevMuhandes: /* Block rate */2009-09-18T06:41:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Block rate</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm 100% sure it fires even if you are not going to be hit. Try using it in the slum, it still fires, though a slum foe is going to have a very hard time hitting me. It is actually very easy to spade this. Just go against a very easy foe and keep doing a non-damaging action. The problem is finding a non-damaging action you can keep doing over and over forever. Using first-aid I quickly did 410 turns against slum foes and 101 of them were blocked. I added the data to the page, more data will make this more accurate but a 25% rate is very likely. I also did it with +25% efficiency and got 37 of 100, exactly what a 25% would suggest. I also added the 50% speculated item drop, at most it is 1% wrong. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm 100% sure it fires even if you are not going to be hit. Try using it in the slum, it still fires, though a slum foe is going to have a very hard time hitting me. It is actually very easy to spade this. Just go against a very easy foe and keep doing a non-damaging action. The problem is finding a non-damaging action you can keep doing over and over forever. Using first-aid I quickly did 410 turns against slum foes and 101 of them were blocked. I added the data to the page, more data will make this more accurate but a 25% rate is very likely. I also did it with +25% efficiency and got 37 of 100, exactly what a 25% would suggest. I also added the 50% speculated item drop, at most it is 1% wrong. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm 100% sure it fires even if you are not going to be hit. Try using it in the slum, it still fires, though a slum foe is going to have a very hard time hitting me. It is actually very easy to spade this. Just go against a very easy foe and keep doing a non-damaging action. The problem is finding a non-damaging action you can keep doing over and over forever. I quickly did 410 turns against slum foes and 101 of them were blocked. I added the data to the page. I also added the 50% speculated item drop, at most it is 1% wrong. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm 100% sure it fires even if you are not going to be hit. Try using it in the slum, it still fires, though a slum foe is going to have a very hard time hitting me. It is actually very easy to spade this. Just go against a very easy foe and keep doing a non-damaging action. The problem is finding a non-damaging action you can keep doing over and over forever. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Using first-aid </ins>I quickly did 410 turns against slum foes and 101 of them were blocked. I added the data to the page<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, more data will make this more accurate but a 25% rate is very likely. I also did it with +25% efficiency and got 37 of 100, exactly what a 25% would suggest</ins>. I also added the 50% speculated item drop, at most it is 1% wrong. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>Muhandeshttp://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grumpy_old_smuggler&diff=27945&oldid=prevMuhandes: /* Block rate */2009-09-16T09:57:13Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Block rate</span></span></p>
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