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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/Talk:Ice_cuberg/history?feed=atom Talk:Ice cuberg - Revision history 2026-06-27T06:18:58Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.42.3
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60949&oldid=prev Patojonas at 01:31, 22 February 2014 2014-02-22T01:31:53Z <p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:31, 22 February 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1815 hp left caused 308 damage. (.169)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1815 hp left caused 308 damage. (.169)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1507 hp left caused 256 damage.(same grumpy) (.169)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1507 hp left caused 256 damage.(same grumpy) (.169)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1361 hp left caused 299 damage. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</del>(.219)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1361 hp left caused 299 damage. (.219)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Water Spider which had 1417 hp left caused 226 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Water Spider which had 1417 hp left caused 226 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key th_wiki:diff:1.41:old-60948:rev-60949:php=table --> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60948&oldid=prev Patojonas: more data, spaded 2014-02-22T01:31:37Z <p>more data, spaded</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:31, 22 February 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a lobstter bot which had 1048 hp left caused 168 damage. (.160)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a lobstter bot which had 1048 hp left caused 168 damage. (.160)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a water spider which had 1052 hp left caused 231 damage. '''(.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">219</del>)'''</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a water spider which had 1052 hp left caused 231 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">damage. (.219)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1862 hp left caused 335 damage. (.179)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1527 hp left caused 320 damage. (.209)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a faceless god which had 515 hp left caused 119 damage. (.231)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a howler in darkness which had 515 hp left caused 93 damage. (.181)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a faceless god which had 770 hp left caused 193 </ins>damage. '''(.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">251</ins>)'''</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So far values seem to </del>range from 15% to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">22</del>% damage<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Consecutive uses in the same fight don</del>'<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t make it stronger. Need moar data </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">determine range</del>. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">11</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">56</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">10 January </del>2014 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Values </ins>range from 15% to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">25</ins>% damage<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, guess that</ins>'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s good enough </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">consider this spaded</ins>. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">17</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">31</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">21 February </ins>2014 (PST)</div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60719&oldid=prev Patojonas at 04:01, 12 January 2014 2014-01-12T04:01:52Z <p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:01, 12 January 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a lobstter bot which had 1048 hp left caused 168 damage. (.160)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a lobstter bot which had 1048 hp left caused 168 damage. (.160)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a water spider which had 1052 hp left caused 231 damage. '''(.219)'''</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to 22% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don&#039;t make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  11:56, 10 January 2014 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to 22% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don&#039;t make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  11:56, 10 January 2014 (PST)</div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60695&oldid=prev Patojonas: another data point, using EMP to discover HP 2014-01-10T20:01:29Z <p>another data point, using <a href="/wiki/EMP_device" title="EMP device">EMP</a> to discover HP</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:01, 10 January 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Water Spider which had 1417 hp left caused 226 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Water Spider which had 1417 hp left caused 226 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a lobstter bot which had 1048 hp left caused 168 damage. (.160)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to 22% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don&#039;t make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  11:56, 10 January 2014 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to 22% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don&#039;t make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  11:56, 10 January 2014 (PST)</div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60694&oldid=prev Patojonas: added 3 more uses and organized things a little 2014-01-10T19:56:26Z <p>added 3 more uses and organized things a little</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:56, 10 January 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If I hadn't used it against it I wouldn't know it is a % damage item ;). I also said it needed checking on tougher foes, which I just did, on a grumpy grey giant: 1st use, 624 damage and the sucker fumbled for 309 damage. Next turn it dealt 867 damage. A set % is impossible with these numbers, so I guess maybe a random % between 2 values, similar to the [[ball o' fire]]?&lt;strike&gt;It is also possible that the more you use in a row the stronger it gets, would need a day where an alt gets 3 or 4 of these to check if that is the case.&lt;/strike&gt;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;br&gt;</del>Using on a water spider which had 1038 hp left caused 155 damage.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;br&gt;</del>Using on a crawler bot which had 482 hp left caused 77 damage. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  06:36, 23 December 2013 </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">PST</del>)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If I hadn't used it against it I wouldn't know it is a % damage item ;). I also said it needed checking on tougher foes, which I just did, on a grumpy grey giant: 1st use, 624 damage and the sucker fumbled for 309 damage. Next turn it dealt 867 damage. A set % is impossible with these numbers, so I guess maybe a random % between 2 values, similar to the [[ball o' fire]]?&lt;strike&gt;It is also possible that the more you use in a row the stronger it gets, would need a day where an alt gets 3 or 4 of these to check if that is the case.&lt;/strike&gt; <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  06:36, 23 December 2013 (PST)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Rock'em Bot which had 1390 hp left caused 250 damage.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>Using on a water spider which had 1038 hp left caused 155 damage. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''(.149)'''</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a crawler bot which had 1395 hp left caused 237 damage.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>Using on a crawler bot which had 482 hp left caused 77 damage. (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.159</ins>)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1815 hp left caused 308 damage.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Rock'em Bot which had 1390 hp left caused 250 damage. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(.179)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1507 hp left caused 256 damage.(same grumpy)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a crawler bot which had 1395 hp left caused 237 damage. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(.169)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1815 hp left caused 308 damage. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(.169)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1507 hp left caused 256 damage.(same grumpy<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">) (.169)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Soundwave which had 1361 hp left caused 299 damage. '''(.219)'''</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Water Spider which had 1417 hp left caused 226 damage. (.159)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Soundwave which had 1372 hp left caused 219 damage. (.159</ins>)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">18</del>% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don't make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range.[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">13</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">38</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">26 December 2013 </del>(PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So far values seem to range from 15% to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">22</ins>% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don't make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">11</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">56</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">10 January 2014 </ins>(PST)</div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60487&oldid=prev Patojonas: 4 more uses 2013-12-26T21:38:49Z <p>4 more uses</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:38, 26 December 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If I hadn't used it against it I wouldn't know it is a % damage item ;). I also said it needed checking on tougher foes, which I just did, on a grumpy grey giant: 1st use, 624 damage and the sucker fumbled for 309 damage. Next turn it dealt 867 damage. A set % is impossible with these numbers, so I guess maybe a random % between 2 values, similar to the [[ball o' fire]]? It is also possible that the more you use in a row the stronger it gets, would need a day where an alt gets 3 or 4 of these to check if that is the case.&lt;br&gt;Using on a water spider which had 1038 hp left caused 155 damage.&lt;br&gt;Using on a crawler bot which had 482 hp left caused 77 damage. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  06:36, 23 December 2013 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If I hadn't used it against it I wouldn't know it is a % damage item ;). I also said it needed checking on tougher foes, which I just did, on a grumpy grey giant: 1st use, 624 damage and the sucker fumbled for 309 damage. Next turn it dealt 867 damage. A set % is impossible with these numbers, so I guess maybe a random % between 2 values, similar to the [[ball o' fire]]?<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;strike&gt;</ins>It is also possible that the more you use in a row the stronger it gets, would need a day where an alt gets 3 or 4 of these to check if that is the case.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/strike&gt;</ins>&lt;br&gt;Using on a water spider which had 1038 hp left caused 155 damage.&lt;br&gt;Using on a crawler bot which had 482 hp left caused 77 damage. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  06:36, 23 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">December 2013 (PST)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Rock'em Bot which had 1390 hp left caused 250 damage.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a crawler bot which had 1395 hp left caused 237 damage.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1815 hp left caused 308 damage.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Using on a Grumpy Grey Giant which had 1507 hp left caused 256 damage.(same grumpy)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So far values seem to range from 15% to 18% damage. Consecutive uses in the same fight don't make it stronger. Need moar data to determine range.[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  13:38, 26 </ins>December 2013 (PST)</div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60463&oldid=prev Patojonas: preliminary data indicates a mechanic similar to ball o' fire 2013-12-23T14:36:51Z <p>preliminary data indicates a mechanic similar to <a href="/wiki/Ball_o%27_fire" title="Ball o&#039; fire">ball o&#039; fire</a></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:36, 23 December 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:If I hadn't used it against it I wouldn't know it is a % damage item ;). I also said it needed checking on tougher foes, which I just did, on a grumpy grey giant: 1st use, 624 damage and the sucker fumbled for 309 damage. Next turn it dealt 867 damage. A set % is impossible with these numbers, so I guess maybe a random % between 2 values, similar to the [[ball o' fire]]? It is also possible that the more you use in a row the stronger it gets, would need a day where an alt gets 3 or 4 of these to check if that is the case.&lt;br&gt;Using on a water spider which had 1038 hp left caused 155 damage.&lt;br&gt;Using on a crawler bot which had 482 hp left caused 77 damage. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  06:36, 23 December 2013 (PST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60461&oldid=prev Cristiona at 03:02, 23 December 2013 2013-12-23T03:02:28Z <p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:02, 23 December 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Using this on the moletron resulted in 159 damage. Maybe it&#039;s % damage? Needs to be checked on tougher foes. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  10:53, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Using this on the moletron resulted in 159 damage. Maybe it&#039;s % damage? Needs to be checked on tougher foes. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  10:53, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Trying to discover damage formulas by testing against league bosses is pretty much always going to be a bad idea.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 19:02, 22 December 2013 (PST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Cristiona
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ice_cuberg&diff=60459&oldid=prev Patojonas: Created page with "Using this on the moletron resulted in 159 damage. Maybe it's % damage? Needs to be checked on tougher foes. ~~~~" 2013-12-22T18:53:57Z <p>Created page with &quot;Using this on the moletron resulted in 159 damage. Maybe it&#039;s % damage? Needs to be checked on tougher foes. ~~~~&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>Using this on the moletron resulted in 159 damage. Maybe it&#039;s % damage? Needs to be checked on tougher foes. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 10:53, 22 December 2013 (PST)</div> Patojonas

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