Talk:Ice sculptor - Revision history

Satan at 06:45, 5 December 2012

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	Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)		Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)
	: As far as I recall both sidekick damage and strike back damage ignore resistances and weaknesses. Is it a bug? I suppose it is. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:42, 5 January 2011 (PST)		: As far as I recall both sidekick damage and strike back damage ignore resistances and weaknesses. Is it a bug? I suppose it is. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:42, 5 January 2011 (PST)
			::As of a few days ago the sidekick ice damage was responding to 50% resistance to ice in the bestiary, so I'm assuming this was a bug that got fixed and I've removed the note in the main page. --[[User:Satan\|Satan]] 00:43, 4th December 2012 (CST)

Muhandes: answer

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	According to the previous data with Judo Kid Gloves, 3 XP can occur at Level 3, which means that the unaffected XP was 2, so it confirms (1Level)-1 at Level 3. We still need to confirm that (1Level)-1 happens at Level 2. If it happens at Level 1, it would be 0 XP, but I don't know if it will do that or not. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		According to the previous data with Judo Kid Gloves, 3 XP can occur at Level 3, which means that the unaffected XP was 2, so it confirms (1Level)-1 at Level 3. We still need to confirm that (1Level)-1 happens at Level 2. If it happens at Level 1, it would be 0 XP, but I don't know if it will do that or not. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

			== Ignoring resistances and weaknesses ==
	Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)		Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)
			: As far as I recall both sidekick damage and strike back damage ignore resistances and weaknesses. Is it a bug? I suppose it is. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:42, 5 January 2011 (PST)

Lxndr at 16:06, 4 January 2011

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	According to the previous data with Judo Kid Gloves, 3 XP can occur at Level 3, which means that the unaffected XP was 2, so it confirms (1Level)-1 at Level 3. We still need to confirm that (1Level)-1 happens at Level 2. If it happens at Level 1, it would be 0 XP, but I don't know if it will do that or not. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		According to the previous data with Judo Kid Gloves, 3 XP can occur at Level 3, which means that the unaffected XP was 2, so it confirms (1Level)-1 at Level 3. We still need to confirm that (1Level)-1 happens at Level 2. If it happens at Level 1, it would be 0 XP, but I don't know if it will do that or not. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

			Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)

PKProStudio at 20:18, 4 August 2009

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	Here's my estimate of the formula: Damage is 1Level to (1Level)+2, and XP is (1Level)-1 to (1Level)+2, except for Levels 1-3, which only have 1Level to (1Level)+2. It would be nice if we get more XP data from Levels 1-3. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		Here's my estimate of the formula: Damage is 1Level to (1Level)+2, and XP is (1Level)-1 to (1Level)+2, except for Levels 1-3, which only have 1Level to (1Level)+2. It would be nice if we get more XP data from Levels 1-3. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

			According to the previous data with Judo Kid Gloves, 3 XP can occur at Level 3, which means that the unaffected XP was 2, so it confirms (1Level)-1 at Level 3. We still need to confirm that (1Level)-1 happens at Level 2. If it happens at Level 1, it would be 0 XP, but I don't know if it will do that or not. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Harry Dresden at 20:07, 4 August 2009

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	: Level 5 (Cube) - 6xp/7damage, 5xp/no hit, 4xp/5.6damage, 7xp/7.5damage, 6xp/no hit, 4xp/5.7.6damage, 4xp/6damage, 7xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6damage, 5xp/6.6damage, 4xp/5.5.6.6damage		: Level 5 (Cube) - 6xp/7damage, 5xp/no hit, 4xp/5.6damage, 7xp/7.5damage, 6xp/no hit, 4xp/5.7.6damage, 4xp/6damage, 7xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6damage, 5xp/6.6damage, 4xp/5.5.6.6damage
	: Level 6 (Cube) - 8xp/no hit, 5xp/7damage, 7xp/8.7damage, 7xp/no hit, 7xp/8.7.8.7.7.8.8damage, 7xp/no hit, 8xp/8damage, 7xp/8.6.6damage, 5xp/8damage, 7xp/no hit, 5xp/8.8damage, 6xp/8.7.6.8damage, 5xp/8.6damage, 8xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6.6.8.7damage, 5xp/8.8.8.8damage, 5xp/no hit, 7xp/7.6.6damage, 6xp/7damage, 7xp/7damage, 5xp/6damage, 6xp/6damage,		: Level 6 (Cube) - 8xp/no hit, 5xp/7damage, 7xp/8.7damage, 7xp/no hit, 7xp/8.7.8.7.7.8.8damage, 7xp/no hit, 8xp/8damage, 7xp/8.6.6damage, 5xp/8damage, 7xp/no hit, 5xp/8.8damage, 6xp/8.7.6.8damage, 5xp/8.6damage, 8xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6.6.8.7damage, 5xp/8.8.8.8damage, 5xp/no hit, 7xp/7.6.6damage, 6xp/7damage, 7xp/7damage, 5xp/6damage, 6xp/6damage,
	: Level 7 (Cube) - 9xp/no hit, 8xp/7damage,		: Level 7 (Cube) - 9xp/no hit, 8xp/7damage, 8xp/7.8.7damage, 9xp/7.9.9.8damage, 9xp/no hit, 7xp/no hit, 6xp/no hit, 8xp/7.8.9.9damage

	~~Will pick up there later today~~...

	This sidekick specialty appears to be able to ignore both resistances and weaknesses to ice damage with its attacks. Fought a battle drone (50% ice resist), my ice bolt did half damage as expected, but my sidekick did not. Similar results against a tormented hero (50% weak to ice). My ice bolt did 1.5 times normal damage, but my sidekick's damage output was unaffected. [[User:World Wizard\|World Wizard]] 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		This sidekick specialty appears to be able to ignore both resistances and weaknesses to ice damage with its attacks. Fought a battle drone (50% ice resist), my ice bolt did half damage as expected, but my sidekick did not. Similar results against a tormented hero (50% weak to ice). My ice bolt did 1.5 times normal damage, but my sidekick's damage output was unaffected. [[User:World Wizard\|World Wizard]] 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

	Here's my estimate of the formula: Damage is 1Level to (1Level)+2, and XP is (1Level)-1 to (1Level)+2, except for Levels 1-3, which only have 1Level to (1Level)+2. It would be nice if we get more XP data from Levels 1-3. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		Here's my estimate of the formula: Damage is 1Level to (1Level)+2, and XP is (1Level)-1 to (1Level)+2, except for Levels 1-3, which only have 1Level to (1Level)+2. It would be nice if we get more XP data from Levels 1-3. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

PKProStudio at 17:54, 4 August 2009

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	This sidekick specialty appears to be able to ignore both resistances and weaknesses to ice damage with its attacks. Fought a battle drone (50% ice resist), my ice bolt did half damage as expected, but my sidekick did not. Similar results against a tormented hero (50% weak to ice). My ice bolt did 1.5 times normal damage, but my sidekick's damage output was unaffected. [[User:World Wizard\|World Wizard]] 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)		This sidekick specialty appears to be able to ignore both resistances and weaknesses to ice damage with its attacks. Fought a battle drone (50% ice resist), my ice bolt did half damage as expected, but my sidekick did not. Similar results against a tormented hero (50% weak to ice). My ice bolt did 1.5 times normal damage, but my sidekick's damage output was unaffected. [[User:World Wizard\|World Wizard]] 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

			Here's my estimate of the formula: Damage is 1Level to (1Level)+2, and XP is (1Level)-1 to (1Level)+2, except for Levels 1-3, which only have 1Level to (1Level)+2. It would be nice if we get more XP data from Levels 1-3. --[[User:PKProStudio\|PKProStudio]] 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

World Wizard at 17:37, 4 August 2009

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	Will pick up there later today...		Will pick up there later today...

			This sidekick specialty appears to be able to ignore both resistances and weaknesses to ice damage with its attacks. Fought a battle drone (50% ice resist), my ice bolt did half damage as expected, but my sidekick did not. Similar results against a tormented hero (50% weak to ice). My ice bolt did 1.5 times normal damage, but my sidekick's damage output was unaffected. [[User:World Wizard\|World Wizard]] 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Harry Dresden at 16:25, 4 August 2009

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	My only effects were Armadillo Armor, Mantis Reflexes, Ant Strength, Aura:Vim, and Aura: Keen Observation at level 8. --[[User:Harry Dresden\|Harry Dresden]] 00:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)		My only effects were Armadillo Armor, Mantis Reflexes, Ant Strength, Aura:Vim, and Aura: Keen Observation at level 8. --[[User:Harry Dresden\|Harry Dresden]] 00:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
	: Assuming rounding up, it fits quite well with an average of 1.5Level, and without the gloves, 1Level. It would be nice if we had data without gloves to verify it. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 06:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)		: Assuming rounding up, it fits quite well with an average of 1.5Level, and without the gloves, 1Level. It would be nice if we had data without gloves to verify it. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 06:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

			Another list, this time without kid gloves, and including elemental damage (3.2.3damage = individual hits of 3, 2, and 3 damage in that round): --[[User:Harry Dresden\|Harry Dresden]] 16:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
			: Level 1 (retro rave) - 1xp/1damage (4 combats), 3xp/no hit (1 combat)
			: Level 2 (retro rave) - 4xp/no hit, 3xp/no hit, 3xp/4damage, 4xp/no hit, 3xp/3.2.3damage
			: Level 3 (guild) - 5xp/no hit, 3xp/4damage, 5xp/4damage, 3xp/3.3damage, 4xp/no hit, 3xp/no hit, 5xp/no hit, 4xp/no hit, 5xp/no hit
			: Level 4 (bayside) - 6xp/no hit, 4xp/6damage, 5xp/no hit, 4xp/no hit, 3xp/4damage, 3xp/no hit, 3xp/6damage, 6xp/no hit, 5xp/4.6.4damage, 5xp/6.6damage, 3xp/4damage
			: Level 5 (Cube) - 6xp/7damage, 5xp/no hit, 4xp/5.6damage, 7xp/7.5damage, 6xp/no hit, 4xp/5.7.6damage, 4xp/6damage, 7xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6damage, 5xp/6.6damage, 4xp/5.5.6.6damage
			: Level 6 (Cube) - 8xp/no hit, 5xp/7damage, 7xp/8.7damage, 7xp/no hit, 7xp/8.7.8.7.7.8.8damage, 7xp/no hit, 8xp/8damage, 7xp/8.6.6damage, 5xp/8damage, 7xp/no hit, 5xp/8.8damage, 6xp/8.7.6.8damage, 5xp/8.6damage, 8xp/6.6damage, 5xp/6.6.8.7damage, 5xp/8.8.8.8damage, 5xp/no hit, 7xp/7.6.6damage, 6xp/7damage, 7xp/7damage, 5xp/6damage, 6xp/6damage,
			: Level 7 (Cube) - 9xp/no hit, 8xp/7damage,

			Will pick up there later today...

Muhandes at 06:12, 3 August 2009

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	Level 9 - 12-17xp		Level 9 - 12-17xp
	My only effects were Armadillo Armor, Mantis Reflexes, Ant Strength, Aura:Vim, and Aura: Keen Observation at level 8. --[[User:Harry Dresden\|Harry Dresden]] 00:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)		My only effects were Armadillo Armor, Mantis Reflexes, Ant Strength, Aura:Vim, and Aura: Keen Observation at level 8. --[[User:Harry Dresden\|Harry Dresden]] 00:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
			: Assuming rounding up, it fits quite well with an average of 1.5Level, and without the gloves, 1Level. It would be nice if we had data without gloves to verify it. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 06:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Harry Dresden: New page: With Judo Kid Gloves on, here are my xp results: Level 1 - 2xp (only 1 combat) Level 2 - 3-6xp Level 3 - 3-8xp Level 4 - 5-9xp Level 5 - 6-11xp Level 6 - 8-12xp Level 7 - 9-14xp Level 8 - ...

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New page: With Judo Kid Gloves on, here are my xp results: Level 1 - 2xp (only 1 combat) Level 2 - 3-6xp Level 3 - 3-8xp Level 4 - 5-9xp Level 5 - 6-11xp Level 6 - 8-12xp Level 7 - 9-14xp Level 8 - ...

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With Judo Kid Gloves on, here are my xp results:
Level 1 - 2xp (only 1 combat)
Level 2 - 3-6xp
Level 3 - 3-8xp
Level 4 - 5-9xp
Level 5 - 6-11xp
Level 6 - 8-12xp
Level 7 - 9-14xp
Level 8 - 11-15xp
Level 9 - 12-17xp
My only effects were Armadillo Armor, Mantis Reflexes, Ant Strength, Aura:Vim, and Aura: Keen Observation at level 8. --[[User:Harry Dresden|Harry Dresden]] 00:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

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	Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)		Isn't it a bug that the sidekick damage ignores both resistances and weaknesses? What good is ice damage otherwise? Does this happen with other elementally-aligned sidekicks? --[[User:Lxndr\|Lxndr]] 08:06, 4 January 2011 (PST)
	: As far as I recall both sidekick damage and strike back damage ignore resistances and weaknesses. Is it a bug? I suppose it is. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:42, 5 January 2011 (PST)		: As far as I recall both sidekick damage and strike back damage ignore resistances and weaknesses. Is it a bug? I suppose it is. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:42, 5 January 2011 (PST)
			::As of a few days ago the sidekick ice damage was responding to 50% resistance to ice in the bestiary, so I'm assuming this was a bug that got fixed and I've removed the note in the main page. --[[User:Satan\|Satan]] 00:43, 4th December 2012 (CST)