Talk:Nocturne's Shop - Revision history

Avenger: /* Order */

2020-06-15T15:00:41Z

Order

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	:Currently, my shop is: Sharovary, Cloak, Silk Shirt, Blindfold, Turkish Coffee, Stimpack, Chess pieces, picture of elemental, picture of psion. I won't have the sugar until after this run, but it looks like they're grouped as Equipment, Consumables, Chess, Avatars. Within each group, they're further grouped by cost first, and probably in order of Elem, Nat, Gadget, Psion. Do we want to duplicate the shop or keep things grouped by class as we have here right now? [[User:Cristiona\|Cristiona]]		:Currently, my shop is: Sharovary, Cloak, Silk Shirt, Blindfold, Turkish Coffee, Stimpack, Chess pieces, picture of elemental, picture of psion. I won't have the sugar until after this run, but it looks like they're grouped as Equipment, Consumables, Chess, Avatars. Within each group, they're further grouped by cost first, and probably in order of Elem, Nat, Gadget, Psion. Do we want to duplicate the shop or keep things grouped by class as we have here right now? [[User:Cristiona\|Cristiona]]
	:: wiki duplicates reality, does not create it. Resistance is futile. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:45, 13 October 2010 (PDT)		:: wiki duplicates reality, does not create it. Resistance is futile. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 01:45, 13 October 2010 (PDT)

			*With purchasing [[The Night Mare]] being a requirement for obtaining the [[knight's badge]], it'd be impossible to see both at the shop at the same time. Since it was posited that equipment was ordered by mettle cost, I put the talisman after the transportation. This ordering is further supported by the [[cartridge of fury]] being in between the 11+ mettle equipment and the Futility belt equipment. --[[User:Avenger\|Avenger]] 23:00, 15 June 2020 (PDT)

	== Summary so far ==		== Summary so far ==

Taltamir: /* Details column */

2018-07-30T06:30:46Z

Details column

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	*I think other pages should have it too, it just makes it so much more convenient to know what each item does, otherwise you need a lot of back and forth to examine each individual page. Simply duplicating the game itself makes the wiki redundant, as you can just go to the game itself to see that, the point of the wiki is to provide additional info beyond what the game does. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)		*I think other pages should have it too, it just makes it so much more convenient to know what each item does, otherwise you need a lot of back and forth to examine each individual page. Simply duplicating the game itself makes the wiki redundant, as you can just go to the game itself to see that, the point of the wiki is to provide additional info beyond what the game does. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)

			*I just double checked and... doesn't it already differ from the game by actually having unlock requirement listed? Also, if we are trying to duplicate the game then the columns need to be shuffled. Currently it is "name - price - picture - unlock requirement" while in the game it is "picture - name - price". I wouldn't mind if the picture was shuffled to the leftmost column to match the game --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:30, 29 July 2018 (PDT)

	== Heirloom Tomato ==		== Heirloom Tomato ==
	Is this really unlocked simply by the quantity of heirloom runs? I did 8 already and it still did not unlock (4x more than what it took to unlock the carrot). Is it possible there is some special trick to it? who has it unlocked already? maybe by looking at their retcon history some clue could be found. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)		Is this really unlocked simply by the quantity of heirloom runs? I did 8 already and it still did not unlock (4x more than what it took to unlock the carrot). Is it possible there is some special trick to it? who has it unlocked already? maybe by looking at their retcon history some clue could be found. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)

Taltamir at 06:26, 30 July 2018

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	Hm... I don't think I like the addition of the Details column. In my opinion, it only adds more clutter/width to this page without providing much of a benefit. Additionally, none of the other [[:Category:Store\|store pages]] have anything similar (but I could be convinced that we should consider adding similar columns to the other pages instead) and it doesn't appear that way in the game (which the wiki tries to copy -- and yes the images here are in the wrong spot). Thoughts? --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04\|talk]]) 01:32, 14 March 2018 (PDT)		Hm... I don't think I like the addition of the Details column. In my opinion, it only adds more clutter/width to this page without providing much of a benefit. Additionally, none of the other [[:Category:Store\|store pages]] have anything similar (but I could be convinced that we should consider adding similar columns to the other pages instead) and it doesn't appear that way in the game (which the wiki tries to copy -- and yes the images here are in the wrong spot). Thoughts? --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04\|talk]]) 01:32, 14 March 2018 (PDT)

			*I think other pages should have it too, it just makes it so much more convenient to know what each item does, otherwise you need a lot of back and forth to examine each individual page. Simply duplicating the game itself makes the wiki redundant, as you can just go to the game itself to see that, the point of the wiki is to provide additional info beyond what the game does. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)

			== Heirloom Tomato ==
			Is this really unlocked simply by the quantity of heirloom runs? I did 8 already and it still did not unlock (4x more than what it took to unlock the carrot). Is it possible there is some special trick to it? who has it unlocked already? maybe by looking at their retcon history some clue could be found. --[[User:Taltamir\|Taltamir]] ([[User talk:Taltamir\|talk]]) 23:26, 29 July 2018 (PDT)

Hoyifung04: /* Details column */ new section

2018-03-14T08:32:23Z

Details column: new section

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	* Unlocking high level item: 11		* Unlocking high level item: 11
	* Unlocking avatar: 16		* Unlocking avatar: 16

			== Details column ==

			Hm... I don't think I like the addition of the Details column. In my opinion, it only adds more clutter/width to this page without providing much of a benefit. Additionally, none of the other [[:Category:Store\|store pages]] have anything similar (but I could be convinced that we should consider adding similar columns to the other pages instead) and it doesn't appear that way in the game (which the wiki tries to copy -- and yes the images here are in the wrong spot). Thoughts? --[[User:Hoyifung04\|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04\|talk]]) 01:32, 14 March 2018 (PDT)

Muhandes at 14:49, 4 January 2011

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	Should there be a note that the Avatars and Night Mare can only be bought once? --[[User:Zillow\|Zillow]]--		Should there be a note that the Avatars and Night Mare can only be bought once? --[[User:Zillow\|Zillow]]--
			: Added. --[[User:Muhandes\|Muhandes]] 06:49, 4 January 2011 (PST)
	==Transportation==		==Transportation==
	I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle) -- the Night Mare		I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle) -- the Night Mare

Zillow at 04:23, 4 January 2011

2011-01-04T04:23:07Z

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	Hopefully I figured out the requirement for lower-cost item. If 1<x<=3, then it must be 3. Why? Because 2 mettle run is impossible (at least for now). --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 08:16, 17 October 2010 (PDT)		Hopefully I figured out the requirement for lower-cost item. If 1<x<=3, then it must be 3. Why? Because 2 mettle run is impossible (at least for now). --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 08:16, 17 October 2010 (PDT)

			Should there be a note that the Avatars and Night Mare can only be bought once? --[[User:Zillow\|Zillow]]--

	==Transportation==		==Transportation==

Jpsteel at 20:29, 4 December 2010

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	Maybe it has something to do with reputation? Yall who have unlocked it, have you done any none balanced runs? --[[User:Blackmatter615\|Blackmatter615]] 21:14, 3 December 2010 (PST)		Maybe it has something to do with reputation? Yall who have unlocked it, have you done any none balanced runs? --[[User:Blackmatter615\|Blackmatter615]] 21:14, 3 December 2010 (PST)

			I'm going to say it doesn't have anything to do with reputation since I haven't done anything but balanced runs -- jpsteel 4 Dec 2010

	==Aftercore note==		==Aftercore note==

Blackmatter615 at 05:14, 4 December 2010

2010-12-04T05:14:29Z

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	SLC got his as a Psion like me but under different run conditions so I'm still pretty sure it is something that unlocks in-run -- jpsteel 3 Dec 2010		SLC got his as a Psion like me but under different run conditions so I'm still pretty sure it is something that unlocks in-run -- jpsteel 3 Dec 2010

			Maybe it has something to do with reputation? Yall who have unlocked it, have you done any none balanced runs? --[[User:Blackmatter615\|Blackmatter615]] 21:14, 3 December 2010 (PST)

	==Aftercore note==		==Aftercore note==

Jpsteel at 06:59, 3 December 2010

2010-12-03T06:59:38Z

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	==Transportation==		==Transportation==
	I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle):		I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle) -- the Night Mare

	~~'''~~the Night Mare~~'''~~

	~~'''Transportation Range: 4'''~~

	~~'''Level Required: 5'''~~

	~~'''Item cannot be traded or sold'''~~
	~~'''Item cannot be auto-sold'''~~

	~~'''+10% to initiative'''~~
	~~'''+10 weapon damage (ranged or melee)'''~~

	I'll be wearing it later tonight so wiki editors can finish the entry -- jpsteel 30 Nov 2010		I'll be wearing it later tonight so wiki editors can finish the entry -- jpsteel 30 Nov 2010
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	I can confirm that 10 no-pull runs are not required to unlock the Mare because Zillow has one too -- jpsteel 1 Dec 2010		I can confirm that 10 no-pull runs are not required to unlock the Mare because Zillow has one too -- jpsteel 1 Dec 2010

			SLC got his as a Psion like me but under different run conditions so I'm still pretty sure it is something that unlocks in-run -- jpsteel 3 Dec 2010

	==Aftercore note==		==Aftercore note==

Muhandes at 16:20, 2 December 2010

2010-12-02T16:20:17Z

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	Hopefully I figured out the requirement for lower-cost item. If 1<x<=3, then it must be 3. Why? Because 2 mettle run is impossible (at least for now). --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 08:16, 17 October 2010 (PDT)		Hopefully I figured out the requirement for lower-cost item. If 1<x<=3, then it must be 3. Why? Because 2 mettle run is impossible (at least for now). --[[User:Shikao\|Shikao]] 08:16, 17 October 2010 (PDT)

			==Transportation==
	I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle):		I unlocked the transportation item today (20 mettle):