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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54748&oldid=prev Hoyifung04: /* Playing card drop rate */ update 2012-08-16T01:08:33Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Playing card drop rate: </span> update</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:08, 16 August 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l32">Line 32:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 32:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; 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border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>surly gambler <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">298</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>surly gambler <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">563</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (1) <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">67</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (1) <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">128</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (2) <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">8</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (2) <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">23</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (3) 0</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   playing card (3) 0</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&lt;/pre&gt;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&lt;/pre&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l42">Line 42:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 42:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops !! Three drops</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops !! Three drops</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| Observed || {{statrate|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">298</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">223</del>|+}}% || {{statrate|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">298</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">67</del>|+}}% || {{statrate|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">298</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">8</del>|+}}% || {{statrate|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">298</del>|0|+}}%</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| Observed || {{statrate|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">563</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">412</ins>|+}}% || {{statrate|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">563</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">128</ins>|+}}% || {{statrate|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">563</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">23</ins>|+}}% || {{statrate|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">563</ins>|0|+}}%</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| Predicted (10%)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| Predicted (10%)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l50">Line 50:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 50:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}%</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}%</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|}</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">14</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">11</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">31 July </del>2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">18</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">08</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">15 August </ins>2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table> Hoyifung04
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54517&oldid=prev Hoyifung04: /* Playing card drop rate */ more data 2012-07-31T21:11:42Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Playing card drop rate: </span> more data</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:11, 31 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Also, the stats for 3 drops is just for completeness.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 15:25, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Also, the stats for 3 drops is just for completeness.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 15:25, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: I submit lol, University clearly dulled my brain as I feared o.O [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 16:07, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: I submit lol, University clearly dulled my brain as I feared o.O [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 16:07, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">----</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;pre&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">surly gambler 298</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (1) 67</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (2) 8</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (3) 0</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/pre&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1" align="center" style="text-align:center"</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|-</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">! !! No drops !! One drop !! Two drops !! 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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54444&oldid=prev Patojonas: indeed 2012-07-23T23:07:42Z <p>indeed</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:07, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ohh, nice box :P</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ohh, nice box :P</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Anyway, 44/183={{statrate|183|44}}  =&gt; 0.24*0.24*0.76 (chance of 2, assuming independent odds) =~4.37% | observed chance of 2 =&gt; 6/183=~3.2%.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Anyway, 44/183={{statrate|183|44}}  <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;del&gt;</ins>=&gt; 0.24*0.24*0.76 (chance of 2, assuming independent odds) =~4.37%<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/del&gt; </ins>| observed chance of 2 =&gt; 6/183=~3.2%.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Wouldn&#039;t it have a 3* in the formula?  Because it&#039;s &lt;code&gt;(#1 drops)(#2 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#3 DOESN&#039;T drop) + (#1 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#2 drops)(#3 DOESN&#039;T drop) + (#1 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#2 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#3 drops)&lt;/code&gt;, or, since we&#039;re assuming all three have the same rate, &lt;code&gt;3*(drops)(DOESN&#039;T drop)(DOESN&#039;T drop)&lt;/code&gt;.  In addition, without multiplying by three, there&#039;s only 63.5% covered... where did the other 36.5% go?  With the multiplication by 3, there&#039;s 100% over the four outcomes.  Also, if I&#039;m reading correctly, then the chance of something happening in a {{wikipedia|binomial distribution}} is &lt;code&gt;C(n,k)p&lt;sup&gt;k&lt;/sup&gt;(1-p)&lt;sup&gt;n-k&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, and C(3,1) = C(3,2) = 3.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Wouldn&#039;t it have a 3* in the formula?  Because it&#039;s &lt;code&gt;(#1 drops)(#2 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#3 DOESN&#039;T drop) + (#1 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#2 drops)(#3 DOESN&#039;T drop) + (#1 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#2 DOESN&#039;T drop)(#3 drops)&lt;/code&gt;, or, since we&#039;re assuming all three have the same rate, &lt;code&gt;3*(drops)(DOESN&#039;T drop)(DOESN&#039;T drop)&lt;/code&gt;.  In addition, without multiplying by three, there&#039;s only 63.5% covered... where did the other 36.5% go?  With the multiplication by 3, there&#039;s 100% over the four outcomes.  Also, if I&#039;m reading correctly, then the chance of something happening in a {{wikipedia|binomial distribution}} is &lt;code&gt;C(n,k)p&lt;sup&gt;k&lt;/sup&gt;(1-p)&lt;sup&gt;n-k&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, and C(3,1) = C(3,2) = 3.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Also, the stats for 3 drops is just for completeness.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 15:25, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Also, the stats for 3 drops is just for completeness.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 15:25, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::: I submit lol, University clearly dulled my brain as I feared o.O [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 16:07, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54443&oldid=prev Hoyifung04: 3* should be right 2012-07-23T22:25:35Z <p>3* should be right</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:25, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Pretty sure you can't actually get 24% that way, but using that value, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of no cards dropping, a {{#expr: 0.24*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 0.24*0.24*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.24*0.24*0.24*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Pretty sure you can't actually get 24% that way, but using that value, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of no cards dropping, a {{#expr: <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">3*</ins>0.24*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">3*</ins>0.24*0.24*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.24*0.24*0.24*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Current rates are {{statrate|183|139|+}}% for no cards dropping, {{statrate|183|38|+}}% for exactly 1 dropping, {{statrate|183|6|+}}% for exactly 2 dropping, and {{statrate|183|0|+}}% for exactly 3 dropping.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Current rates are {{statrate|183|139|+}}% for no cards dropping, {{statrate|183|38|+}}% for exactly 1 dropping, {{statrate|183|6|+}}% for exactly 2 dropping, and {{statrate|183|0|+}}% for exactly 3 dropping.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:At, say, a 10% drop rate, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.10*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.10*0.10*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.  This is closer, but still not quite the same as the data.  In any case, I agree with one part of your conclusion: 200 is too small a sample.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:At, say, a 10% drop rate, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.10*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.10*0.10*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.  This is closer, but still not quite the same as the data.  In any case, I agree with one part of your conclusion: 200 is too small a sample.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, all this is assuming the drop rate for each card is the same.  If it isn&#039;t, that&#039;ll be a lot of &quot;fun&quot;....  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 13:19, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, all this is assuming the drop rate for each card is the same.  If it isn&#039;t, that&#039;ll be a lot of &quot;fun&quot;....  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 13:19, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hope you don&#039;t mind, but I fixed your formulas on the first line, there was a 3* in the 1 and 2 drops that was messing the values.&lt;br&gt;If you check now, you&#039;ll see that the theoretical values assuming 24 are within or very close to the experimental data you obtained (except for the no drops case, a small change in the numbers influences that one too much).&lt;br&gt;Also, no point in doing statistics for the 3 drops when you haven&#039;t observed any occurrences ;) [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 14:03, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hope you don&#039;t mind, but I fixed your formulas on the first line, there was a 3* in the 1 and 2 drops that was messing the values.&lt;br&gt;If you check now, you&#039;ll see that the theoretical values assuming 24 are within or very close to the experimental data you obtained (except for the no drops case, a small change in the numbers influences that one too much).&lt;br&gt;Also, no point in doing statistics for the 3 drops when you haven&#039;t observed any occurrences ;) [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 14:03, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Wouldn't it have a 3* in the formula?  Because it's &lt;code&gt;(#1 drops)(#2 DOESN'T drop)(#3 DOESN'T drop) + (#1 DOESN'T drop)(#2 drops)(#3 DOESN'T drop) + (#1 DOESN'T drop)(#2 DOESN'T drop)(#3 drops)&lt;/code&gt;, or, since we're assuming all three have the same rate, &lt;code&gt;3*(drops)(DOESN'T drop)(DOESN'T drop)&lt;/code&gt;.  In addition, without multiplying by three, there's only 63.5% covered... where did the other 36.5% go?  With the multiplication by 3, there's 100% over the four outcomes.  Also, if I'm reading correctly, then the chance of something happening in a {{wikipedia|binomial distribution}} is &lt;code&gt;C(n,k)p&lt;sup&gt;k&lt;/sup&gt;(1-p)&lt;sup&gt;n-k&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, and C(3,1) = C(3,2) = 3.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Also, the stats for 3 drops is just for completeness.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 15:25, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key th_wiki:diff:1.41:old-54441:rev-54443:php=table --> </table> Hoyifung04
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54441&oldid=prev Patojonas: I knew they looked strange 2012-07-23T21:03:08Z <p>I knew they looked strange</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:03, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Pretty sure you can't actually get 24% that way, but using that value, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of no cards dropping, a {{#expr: <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">3*</del>0.24*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">3*</del>0.24*0.24*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.24*0.24*0.24*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Pretty sure you can't actually get 24% that way, but using that value, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of no cards dropping, a {{#expr: 0.24*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 0.24*0.24*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.24*0.24*0.24*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Current rates are {{statrate|183|139|+}}% for no cards dropping, {{statrate|183|38|+}}% for exactly 1 dropping, {{statrate|183|6|+}}% for exactly 2 dropping, and {{statrate|183|0|+}}% for exactly 3 dropping.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Current rates are {{statrate|183|139|+}}% for no cards dropping, {{statrate|183|38|+}}% for exactly 1 dropping, {{statrate|183|6|+}}% for exactly 2 dropping, and {{statrate|183|0|+}}% for exactly 3 dropping.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:At, say, a 10% drop rate, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.10*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.10*0.10*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.  This is closer, but still not quite the same as the data.  In any case, I agree with one part of your conclusion: 200 is too small a sample.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:At, say, a 10% drop rate, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.10*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.10*0.10*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.  This is closer, but still not quite the same as the data.  In any case, I agree with one part of your conclusion: 200 is too small a sample.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, all this is assuming the drop rate for each card is the same.  If it isn&#039;t, that&#039;ll be a lot of &quot;fun&quot;....  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 13:19, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, all this is assuming the drop rate for each card is the same.  If it isn&#039;t, that&#039;ll be a lot of &quot;fun&quot;....  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 13:19, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Hope you don't mind, but I fixed your formulas on the first line, there was a 3* in the 1 and 2 drops that was messing the values.&lt;br&gt;If you check now, you'll see that the theoretical values assuming 24 are within or very close to the experimental data you obtained (except for the no drops case, a small change in the numbers influences that one too much).&lt;br&gt;Also, no point in doing statistics for the 3 drops when you haven't observed any occurrences ;) [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 14:03, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54440&oldid=prev Hoyifung04: /* Playing card drop rate */ Not quite.... 2012-07-23T20:19:38Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Playing card drop rate: </span> Not quite....</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:19, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there&#039;s too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Pretty sure you can't actually get 24% that way, but using that value, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of no cards dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.24*(1-0.24)*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.24*0.24*(1-0.24)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.24*0.24*0.24*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Current rates are {{statrate|183|139|+}}% for no cards dropping, {{statrate|183|38|+}}% for exactly 1 dropping, {{statrate|183|6|+}}% for exactly 2 dropping, and {{statrate|183|0|+}}% for exactly 3 dropping.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:At, say, a 10% drop rate, there would be a {{#expr: (1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, a {{#expr: 3*0.10*(1-0.10)*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 1 dropping, and a {{#expr: 3*0.10*0.10*(1-0.10)*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 2 dropping, and a {{#expr:0.10*0.10*0.10*100 round 1}}% chance of exactly 3 dropping.  This is closer, but still not quite the same as the data.  In any case, I agree with one part of your conclusion: 200 is too small a sample.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Of course, all this is assuming the drop rate for each card is the same.  If it isn't, that'll be a lot of "fun"....  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 13:19, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key th_wiki:diff:1.41:old-54439:rev-54440:php=table --> </table> Hoyifung04
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54439&oldid=prev Patojonas: my 2 cents 2012-07-23T19:29:03Z <p>my 2 cents</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:29, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&lt;/pre&gt;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&lt;/pre&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>If someone is able to extract the drop rate of each playing card, I&#039;d be grateful.  In the meantime, I&#039;m going to collect more data.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 09:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>If someone is able to extract the drop rate of each playing card, I&#039;d be grateful.  In the meantime, I&#039;m going to collect more data.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 09:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">----</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ohh, nice box :P</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Anyway, 44/183={{statrate|183|44}}  =&gt; 0.24*0.24*0.76 (chance of 2, assuming independent odds) =~4.37% | observed chance of 2 =&gt; 6/183=~3.2%.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Conclusion: Unless you can get that 6 to 60 there's too much chance (±6.3% lol) and little statistic.&lt;br&gt;Also, if the chance is indeed 24% statistically you ought to have already seen 2 occurrences of 3 cards together, which proves 200 is still a small sample. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Patojonas
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=54418&oldid=prev Hoyifung04: /* Playing card drop rate */ new section 2012-07-23T16:29:34Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Playing card drop rate: </span> new section</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:29, 23 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I don&#039;t know how to tell the difference between all the types of messages, but this one wasn&#039;t on the page. [[User:Usi|Usi]] 02:39, 30 March 2008 (MST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I don&#039;t know how to tell the difference between all the types of messages, but this one wasn&#039;t on the page. [[User:Usi|Usi]] 02:39, 30 March 2008 (MST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Playing card drop rate ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I don't know how to find the probabilities for each playing card, so I'm just going to put my numbers here.  Note that each line is exclusively that number (i.e. the "playing card (1)" line means that EXACTLY one playing card dropped).</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;pre&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">surly gambler 183</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (1) 38</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (2) 6</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">  playing card (3) 0</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/pre&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If someone is able to extract the drop rate of each playing card, I'd be grateful.  In the meantime, I'm going to collect more data.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 09:29, 23 July 2012 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Hoyifung04
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http://th.blandsauce.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Surly_gambler&diff=8803&oldid=prev Usi: New page: "Your opponent attacks ... "Draw," she says. You go for your weapon, but a professional gambler is always better at the draw. She hits you for 3 damage." I don't know how to tell the diff... 2008-03-30T09:39:21Z <p>New page: &quot;Your opponent attacks ... &quot;Draw,&quot; she says. You go for your weapon, but a professional gambler is always better at the draw. She hits you for 3 damage.&quot; I don&#039;t know how to tell the diff...</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&quot;Your opponent attacks ... &quot;Draw,&quot; she says. You go for your weapon, but a professional gambler is always better at the draw. She hits you for 3 damage.&quot;<br /> <br /> I don&#039;t know how to tell the difference between all the types of messages, but this one wasn&#039;t on the page. [[User:Usi|Usi]] 02:39, 30 March 2008 (MST)</div> Usi

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