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Patojonas: cap formula spaded

2013-12-13T17:51:56Z

cap formula spaded

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 :  1082	XP	| | 279	Chips
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-:  1005	XP	| | 278	Chips
+Check [https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8MEg0ItIkfMS0VNc3E1ckNVTmM/edit here] for data and analysis.
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 Threshold 250 XP
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 ::I've added some more data and removed unnecessary information, easier to move to a spreadsheet now. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  07:28, 5 December 2013 (PST)
 :::Apparently Winsdays were adding +10 chips and not +5. That is the cause for the 2 data sets and has been fixed. More data added. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  15:32, 9 December 2013 (PST)
 Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)

Patojonas at 22:28, 10 December 2013

2013-12-10T22:28:51Z

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	:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	::Then that's wrong, because (I just checked and) casting sundowner's increased X from all s7g robots by a bunch (just a small one, I only have 2 points in the skill), and running out of it decreased X back to what it was before casting it. --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (PST)		::Then that's wrong, because (I just checked and) casting sundowner's increased X from all s7g robots by a bunch (just a small one, I only have 2 points in the skill), and running out of it decreased X back to what it was before casting it. --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (PST)
			:I never saw anything affect it but I never tried sundowner. [http://forums.twilightheroes.com/viewtopic.php?t=437&start=575#p33757 According to Kinak], it works with ''some'' bonuses guess we need to make a list of them all =S [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 14:28, 10 December 2013 (PST)

XKiv at 20:43, 10 December 2013

2013-12-10T20:43:23Z

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	Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)
			::Then that's wrong, because (I just checked and) casting sundowner's increased X from all s7g robots by a bunch (just a small one, I only have 2 points in the skill), and running out of it decreased X back to what it was before casting it. --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (PST)

Patojonas: more data

2013-12-10T17:40:33Z

more data

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 :  1179	XP	| | 281	Chips
 :  1082	XP	| | 279	Chips
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 :   729	XP	| | 272	Chips
 :   706	XP	| | 272	Chips

Patojonas: moar data

2013-12-09T23:32:24Z

moar data

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	Here's the numbers I have so far on this:		Here's the numbers I have so far on this:

	: 75834 XP \| \| 525 Chips		:115015 XP \| \| 589 Chips
			: 75834 XP \| \| 525 Chips
	: 46599 XP \| \| 466 Chips		: 46599 XP \| \| 466 Chips
	: 22022 XP \| \| 408 Chips		: 22022 XP \| \| 408 Chips
			: 4735 XP \| \| 317 Chips
	: 3414 XP \| \| 317 Chips		: 3414 XP \| \| 317 Chips
	: 2559 XP \| \| 309 Chips		: 2559 XP \| \| 309 Chips
	: 2123 XP \| \| 304 Chips		: 2123 XP \| \| 304 Chips
			: 1179 XP \| \| 281 Chips
			: 1082 XP \| \| 279 Chips
	: 984 XP \| \| 288 Chips		: 984 XP \| \| 288 Chips
	: 844 XP \| \| 285 Chips		: 844 XP \| \| 285 Chips
			: 790 XP \| \| 274 Chips
	: 720 XP \| \| 282 Chips		: 720 XP \| \| 282 Chips
	: 701 XP \| \| 282 Chips		: 701 XP \| \| 282 Chips
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	: 400 XP \| \| 273 Chips		: 400 XP \| \| 273 Chips
	----		----
	: 500 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 729 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 496 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 706 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 491 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 701 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 487 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 687 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 483 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 682 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 478 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 673 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 474 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 663 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 470 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 654 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 466 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 649 XP \| \| 270 Chips
	: 461 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 640 XP \| \| 270 Chips
	: 457 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 635 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 626 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 613 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 608 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 603 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 599 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 590 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 580 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 576 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 571 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 567 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 562 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 557 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 553 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 548 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 544 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 539 XP \| \| 267 Chips
			: 500 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 496 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 491 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 487 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 483 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 478 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 474 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 470 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 466 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 461 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 457 XP \| \| 265 Chips
	: 453 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 453 XP \| \| 265 Chips
	: 448 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 448 XP \| \| 265 Chips
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	:Past 250, values seems to follow the formula <code>250 + A*{{radic\|(XP-250)}}</code>.<br>Oddly enough, in the data set above, taken from various accounts, there seems to be 2 data sets with different values of A, one close to but a bit higher than 1 and the other close to but higher than 2. Data was acquired in different days so either there was some tweaking in the formula or some unknown factor is influencing the result. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:Past 250, values seems to follow the formula <code>250 + A*{{radic\|(XP-250)}}</code>.<br>Oddly enough, in the data set above, taken from various accounts, there seems to be 2 data sets with different values of A, one close to but a bit higher than 1 and the other close to but higher than 2. Data was acquired in different days so either there was some tweaking in the formula or some unknown factor is influencing the result. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	::I've added some more data and removed unnecessary information, easier to move to a spreadsheet now. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 07:28, 5 December 2013 (PST)		::I've added some more data and removed unnecessary information, easier to move to a spreadsheet now. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 07:28, 5 December 2013 (PST)
			:::Apparently Winsdays were adding +10 chips and not +5. That is the cause for the 2 data sets and has been fixed. More data added. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 15:32, 9 December 2013 (PST)

	Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)

Patojonas: more data, cleanup

2013-12-05T15:28:48Z

more data, cleanup

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Patojonas: soft cap formula?

2013-12-04T17:05:31Z

soft cap formula?

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	: 360 XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 261 Chips		: 360 XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 261 Chips
	: 389 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 262 Chips		: 389 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 262 Chips
			: 371 XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 261 Chips
			: 367 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 261 Chips
			: 362 XP from throwing the water strider in prison and 261 Chips
			: 358 XP from throwing the Grumpy Grey Giant in prison and 261 Chips
			: 354 XP from throwing the water strider in prison and 261 Chips
			: 350 XP from throwing the Rock'em Bot in prison and 260 Chips
			: 346 XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 260 Chips
			: 338 XP from throwing the water strider in prison and 260 Chips
			: 333 XP from throwing the Grumpy Grey Giant in prison and 260 Chips
			: 329 XP from throwing the Grumpy Grey Giant in prison and 259 Chips
	: 325 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 259 Chips		: 325 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 259 Chips
	: 317 XP from throwing the Rock'em Bot in prison and 259 Chips		: 317 XP from throwing the Rock'em Bot in prison and 259 Chips
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	Threshold seems to be at 250 chips. Just tested with clock zone foes, non scaling foes also have the chips limited. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 06:12, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Threshold seems to be at 250 chips. Just tested with clock zone foes, non scaling foes also have the chips limited. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 06:12, 4 December 2013 (PST)
			:Past 250, values seems to follow the formula <code>250 + A*{{radic\|(XP-250)}}</code>.<br>Oddly enough, in the data set above, taken from various accounts, there seems to be 2 data sets with different values of A, one close to but a bit higher than 1 and the other close to but higher than 2. Data was acquired in different days so either there was some tweaking in the formula or some unknown factor is influencing the result. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)

	Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)
			:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)

XKiv at 16:58, 4 December 2013

2013-12-04T16:58:11Z

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	Threshold seems to be at 250 chips. Just tested with clock zone foes, non scaling foes also have the chips limited. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 06:12, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Threshold seems to be at 250 chips. Just tested with clock zone foes, non scaling foes also have the chips limited. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 06:12, 4 December 2013 (PST)

			Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)

Patojonas: also valid for normal foes

2013-12-04T14:12:41Z

also valid for normal foes

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	~~==[[:Category:Scaling Enemies\|Scaling enemies]]==~~
	Here's the numbers I have so far on this:		Here's the numbers I have so far on this:

			: 46599 XP (xKiv's data) 466 Chips
	: 22022 XP from throwing the water strider in prison and 408 Chips		: 22022 XP from throwing the water strider in prison and 408 Chips
	: 3414 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 317 Chips		: 3414 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 317 Chips
	: 2559 XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 309 Chips		: 2559 XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 309 Chips
	: 2123 XP from throwing the squid bot in prison and 304 Chips		: 2123 XP from throwing the squid bot in prison and 304 Chips
	: 984 XP from throwing the a greater fiendin prison and 288 Chips		: 984 XP from throwing the a greater fiendin prison and 288 Chips
	: 844 XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 285 Chips		: 844 XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 285 Chips
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	: 566 XP from throwing the Ol' IronHideSides in prison and 278 Chips		: 566 XP from throwing the Ol' IronHideSides in prison and 278 Chips
	: 400 XP from throwing Deacon Frostheim in prison and 273 Chips		: 400 XP from throwing Deacon Frostheim in prison and 273 Chips
			: 360 XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 261 Chips
	: 389 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 262 Chips		: 389 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 262 Chips
	: 325 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 259 Chips		: 325 XP from throwing a greater fiend in prison and 259 Chips
			: 317 XP from throwing the Rock'em Bot in prison and 259 Chips
			: 313 XP from throwing the SnoBot in prison and 258 Chips
			: 305 XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 258 Chips
			: 301 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 258 Chips
	: 300 XP from throwing a lesser fiend in prison and 258 Chips		: 300 XP from throwing a lesser fiend in prison and 258 Chips
			: 293 XP from throwing the Grumpy Grey Giant in prison and 257 Chips
	: 285 XP from throwing the lobster bot in prison and 256 Chips		: 285 XP from throwing the lobster bot in prison and 256 Chips
	: 281 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 256 Chips		: 281 XP from throwing the crawler bot in prison and 256 Chips
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	: 201 XP from throwing the water spider in prison and 201 Chips		: 201 XP from throwing the water spider in prison and 201 Chips

	Threshold seems to be at 250 XP. ~~Please add you data in~~ the ~~right place~~. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 12~~:17~~, 3 December 2013 (PST)		Threshold seems to be at 250 chips. Just tested with clock zone foes, non scaling foes also have the chips limited. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 06:12, 4 December 2013 (PST)

Patojonas: more data

2013-12-03T20:17:15Z

more data

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 :  2559	XP from throwing the SoundWave in prison and 		309	Chips
 :  2123	XP from throwing the squid bot in prison and 		304	Chips
-:   984	XP from throwing the a greater beast in prison and 	288	Chips
+:   984	XP from throwing the a greater fiendin prison and 	288	Chips
 :   844	XP from throwing the a greater fiend in prison and 	285	Chips
 :   720	XP from throwing the crawling mist in prison and 	282	Chips
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 :   566	XP from throwing the Ol' IronHideSides in prison and 	278	Chips
 :   400	XP from throwing Deacon Frostheim in prison and 	273	Chips
-Please add yours in the right place. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  05:09, 3 December 2013 (PST)
+Threshold seems to be at 250 XP. Please add you data in the right place. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  12:17, 3 December 2013 (PST)

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	:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	::Then that's wrong, because (I just checked and) casting sundowner's increased X from all s7g robots by a bunch (just a small one, I only have 2 points in the skill), and running out of it decreased X back to what it was before casting it. --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (PST)		::Then that's wrong, because (I just checked and) casting sundowner's increased X from all s7g robots by a bunch (just a small one, I only have 2 points in the skill), and running out of it decreased X back to what it was before casting it. --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (PST)
			:I never saw anything affect it but I never tried sundowner. [http://forums.twilightheroes.com/viewtopic.php?t=437&start=575#p33757 According to Kinak], it works with ''some'' bonuses guess we need to make a list of them all =S [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 14:28, 10 December 2013 (PST)

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	Here's the numbers I have so far on this:		Here's the numbers I have so far on this:

	: 75834 XP \| \| 525 Chips		:115015 XP \| \| 589 Chips
			: 75834 XP \| \| 525 Chips
	: 46599 XP \| \| 466 Chips		: 46599 XP \| \| 466 Chips
	: 22022 XP \| \| 408 Chips		: 22022 XP \| \| 408 Chips
			: 4735 XP \| \| 317 Chips
	: 3414 XP \| \| 317 Chips		: 3414 XP \| \| 317 Chips
	: 2559 XP \| \| 309 Chips		: 2559 XP \| \| 309 Chips
	: 2123 XP \| \| 304 Chips		: 2123 XP \| \| 304 Chips
			: 1179 XP \| \| 281 Chips
			: 1082 XP \| \| 279 Chips
	: 984 XP \| \| 288 Chips		: 984 XP \| \| 288 Chips
	: 844 XP \| \| 285 Chips		: 844 XP \| \| 285 Chips
			: 790 XP \| \| 274 Chips
	: 720 XP \| \| 282 Chips		: 720 XP \| \| 282 Chips
	: 701 XP \| \| 282 Chips		: 701 XP \| \| 282 Chips
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	: 400 XP \| \| 273 Chips		: 400 XP \| \| 273 Chips
	----		----
	: 500 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 729 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 496 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 706 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 491 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 701 XP \| \| 272 Chips
	: 487 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 687 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 483 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 682 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 478 XP \| \| 266 Chips		: 673 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 474 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 663 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 470 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 654 XP \| \| 271 Chips
	: 466 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 649 XP \| \| 270 Chips
	: 461 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 640 XP \| \| 270 Chips
	: 457 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 635 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 626 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 613 XP \| \| 270 Chips
			: 608 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 603 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 599 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 590 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 580 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 576 XP \| \| 269 Chips
			: 571 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 567 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 562 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 557 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 553 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 548 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 544 XP \| \| 268 Chips
			: 539 XP \| \| 267 Chips
			: 500 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 496 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 491 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 487 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 483 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 478 XP \| \| 266 Chips
			: 474 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 470 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 466 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 461 XP \| \| 265 Chips
			: 457 XP \| \| 265 Chips
	: 453 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 453 XP \| \| 265 Chips
	: 448 XP \| \| 265 Chips		: 448 XP \| \| 265 Chips
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	:Past 250, values seems to follow the formula <code>250 + A*{{radic\|(XP-250)}}</code>.<br>Oddly enough, in the data set above, taken from various accounts, there seems to be 2 data sets with different values of A, one close to but a bit higher than 1 and the other close to but higher than 2. Data was acquired in different days so either there was some tweaking in the formula or some unknown factor is influencing the result. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:Past 250, values seems to follow the formula <code>250 + A*{{radic\|(XP-250)}}</code>.<br>Oddly enough, in the data set above, taken from various accounts, there seems to be 2 data sets with different values of A, one close to but a bit higher than 1 and the other close to but higher than 2. Data was acquired in different days so either there was some tweaking in the formula or some unknown factor is influencing the result. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	::I've added some more data and removed unnecessary information, easier to move to a spreadsheet now. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 07:28, 5 December 2013 (PST)		::I've added some more data and removed unnecessary information, easier to move to a spreadsheet now. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 07:28, 5 December 2013 (PST)
			:::Apparently Winsdays were adding +10 chips and not +5. That is the cause for the 2 data sets and has been fixed. More data added. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 15:32, 9 December 2013 (PST)

	Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)		Thought: does "base XP" in this context follow foe toughness modifiers? --[[User:XKiv\|XKiv]] ([[User talk:XKiv\|talk]]) 08:58, 4 December 2013 (PST)
	:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)		:By base XP I mean the value that shows on the wiki, unaffected by anything. [[User:Patojonas\|Patojonas]] 09:05, 4 December 2013 (PST)