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:Good to know =] Anyone know quick way to change excel table into wiki table? --[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 06:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
 
:Good to know =] Anyone know quick way to change excel table into wiki table? --[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 06:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
 
:Luckily, it wasn't hard to find a page that does it. In case we would like more I can easily produce table to whatever lvl we want.--[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 07:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
 
:Luckily, it wasn't hard to find a page that does it. In case we would like more I can easily produce table to whatever lvl we want.--[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 07:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
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:: Care to add the formula to the page as well? --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 14:45, 19 February 2011 (PST)
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::: I can only provide XP to gain formula. For total XP for given level I would need nice formula for sum of arithemic series (yes, I know that series is sum of sequence).--[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 06:05, 21 February 2011 (PST)

Latest revision as of 06:05, 21 February 2011

New formula 26-50

Level Total XP Required XP to gain Chips Required
26 368,000 +32,000 2,500
27 401,000 +33,000 2,600
28 435,000 +34,000 2,700
29 470,000 +35,000 2,800
30 506,000 +36,000 2,900
31 543,000 +37,000 3,000
32 581,000 +38,000 3,100
33 620,000 +39,000 3,200
34 660,000 +40,000 3,300
35 701,000 +41,000 3,400
36 743,000 +42,000 3,500
37 786,000 +43,000 3,600
38 830,000 +44,000 3,700
39 875,000 +45,000 3,800
40 931,000 +46,000 3,900
41 978,000 +47,000 4,000
42 1,016,000 +48,000 4,100
43 1,065,000 +49,000 4,200
44 1,115,000 +50,000 4,300
45 1,166,000 +51,000 4,400
46 1,218,000 +52,000 4,500
47 1,271,000 +53,000 4,600
48 1,325,000 +54,000 4,700
49 1,380,000 +55,000 4,800
50 1,436,000 +56,000 4,900

--Shikao 00:35, 25 January 2011 (PST)

Level 42 needs 1,016,000xp
Level 43 needs 1,065,000xp
Level 44 needs 1,115,000xp
Level 45 needs 1,166,000xp
Level 46 needs 1,218,000xp, 4500 chips
Level 47 needs 1,271,000xp, 4600 chips
Level 48 needs 1,325,000xp, 4700 chips
Level 49 needs 1,380,000xp, 4800 chips
Level 50 needs 1,436,000xp, 4900 chips
--Harry Dresden 07:53, 10 January 2011 (PST)

Could you also note down chip cost? For now it looks that experience needed to lvl up is (lvl+7)*1000exp --Shikao 06:41, 13 January 2011 (PST)

Chip cost is still the same as before - level*100--Harry Dresden 06:34, 15 January 2011 (PST)

Graphing these results, here's the pattern I've found:

  • To go from 42 to 43 is 49k
  • To go from 43 to 44 is 50k
  • To go from 44 to 45 is 51k
  • To go from 45 to 46 is 52k

...and so on If this pattern holds, Harry will need 1,436,000 to reach level 50. (56k from 1,380,000) Unfortunately, assuming I'm right, we still need the data from levels 25 to 41 to figure out the equation completely.--Lxndr 13:49, 20 January 2011 (PST)

That said, if we extrapolate this pattern back to 25, we wind up with 336,000 at level 25 (an exact match with the data we have), which implies that, after level 25, it's (current level+7)*1000 to reach the next level. Of course, things probably change above 50, in the Aquasson base. --Lxndr 14:09, 20 January 2011 (PST)
In few days I will start collecting data from 25 =]--Shikao 21:27, 20 January 2011 (PST)
That equation seems correct. Feel free to add the data, it can be verified later. --Muhandes 23:36, 20 January 2011 (PST)

Basing on Cristiona's old formula for 50+ I came up with this for 26-50 total experience:
(level-25)*32,000+500*((level-26)^2+level-26)+33,6000
--Shikao 01:30, 30 January 2011 (PST)

Formula 51+

Level Total XP Required XP to gain Logos Required
51 1,495,000 +59,000 20
52 1,560,000 +65,000 20
53 1,631,500 +71,500 20
54 1,710,000 +78,500 21
55 1,796,000 +86,000 21
56 1,890,000 +94,000 21
57 1,992,500 +102,500 21
58 2,104,000 +111,500 21
59 2,225,000 +121,000 22
60 2,356,000 +131,000 22
61 2,497,500 +141,500 22
62 2,650,000 +152,500 22
63 2,814,000 +164,000 22
64 2,990,000 +176,000 23
65 3,178,500 +188,500 23
66 3,380,000 +201,500 23
67 3,595,000 +215,000 23
68 3,824,000 +229,000 23
69 4,067,500 +243,500 24
70 4,326,000 +258,500 24
71 4,600,000 +274,000 24
72 4,890,000 +290,000 24
73 5,196,500 +306,500 24
74 5,520,000 +323,500 25
75 5,861,000 +341,000 25
76 6,220,000 +359,000 25
77 6,597,500 +377,500 25
78 6,994,000 +396,500 25
79 7,410,000 +416,000 26
80 7,846,000 +436,000 26
81 8,302,500 +456,500 26
82 8,780,000 +477,500 26
83 9,279,000 +499,000 26
84 9,800,000 +521,000 27
85 10,343,500 +543,500 27
86 10,910,000 +566,500 27
87 11,500,000 +590,000 27
88 12,114,000 +614,000 27
89 12,752,500 +638,500 28
90 13,416,000 +663,500 28
91 14,105,000 +689,000 28
92 14,820,000 +715,000 28
93 15,561,500 +741,500 28
94 16,330,000 +768,500 29
95 17,126,000 +796,000 29
96 17,950,000 +824,000 29
97 18,802,500 +852,500 29
98 19,684,000 +881,500 29
99 20,595,000 +911,000 30
100 21,536,000 +941,000 30
101 22,507,500 +971,500 30
102 23,510,000 +1,002,500 30
103 24,544,000 +1,034,000 30
104 25,610,000 +1,066,000 31
105 26,708,500 +1,098,500 31
106 27,840,000 +1,131,500 31
107 29,005,000 +1,165,000 31
108 30,204,000 +1,199,000 31
109 31,437,500 +1,233,500 32
110 32,706,000 +1,268,500 32
111 34,010,000 +1,304,000 32
112 35,350,000 +1,340,000 32
113 36,726,500 +1,376,500 32
114 38,140,000 +1,413,500 33
115 39,591,000 +1,451,000 33
116 41,080,000 +1,489,000 33
117 42,607,500 +1,527,500 33
118 44,174,000 +1,566,500 33
119 45,780,000 +1,606,000 34
120 47,426,000 +1,646,000 34
121 49,112,500 +1,686,500 34
122 50,840,000 +1,727,500 34
123 52,609,000 +1,769,000 34
124 54,420,000 +1,811,000 35
125 56,273,500 +1,853,500 35
126 58,170,000 +1,896,500 35
127 60,110,000 +1,940,000 35
128 62,094,000 +1,984,000 35
129 64,122,500 +2,028,500 36
130 66,196,000 +2,073,500 36
131 68,315,000 +2,119,000 36
132 70,480,000 +2,165,000 36
133 72,691,500 +2,211,500 36
134 74,950,000 +2,258,500 37
135 77,256,000 +2,306,000 37
136 79,610,000 +2,354,000 37
137 82,012,500 +2,402,500 37
138 84,464,000 +2,451,500 37
139 86,965,000 +2,501,000 38
140 89,516,000 +2,551,000 38
141 92,117,500 +2,601,500 38
142 94,770,000 +2,652,500 38
143 97,474,000 +2,704,000 38
144 100,230,000 +2,756,000 39
145 103,038,500 +2,808,500 39
146 105,900,000 +2,861,500 39
147 108,815,000 +2,915,000 39
148 111,784,000 +2,969,000 39
149 114,807,500 +3,023,500 40
150 117,886,000 +3,078,500 40
Level Total XP Required XP to gain Logos Required
151 121,020,000 +3,134,000 40
152 124,210,000 +3,190,000 40
153 127,456,500 +3,246,500 40
154 130,760,000 +3,303,500 41
155 134,121,000 +3,361,000 41
156 137,540,000 +3,419,000 41
157 141,017,500 +3,477,500 41
158 144,554,000 +3,536,500 41
159 148,150,000 +3,596,000 42
160 151,806,000 +3,656,000 42
161 155,522,500 +3,716,500 42
162 159,300,000 +3,777,500 42
163 163,139,000 +3,839,000 42
164 167,040,000 +3,901,000 43
165 171,003,500 +3,963,500 43
166 175,030,000 +4,026,500 43
167 179,120,000 +4,090,000 43
168 183,274,000 +4,154,000 43
169 187,492,500 +4,218,500 44
170 191,776,000 +4,283,500 44
171 196,125,000 +4,349,000 44
172 200,540,000 +4,415,000 44
173 205,021,500 +4,481,500 44
174 209,570,000 +4,548,500 45
175 214,186,000 +4,616,000 45
176 218,870,000 +4,684,000 45
177 223,622,500 +4,752,500 45
178 228,444,000 +4,821,500 45
179 233,335,000 +4,891,000 46
180 238,296,000 +4,961,000 46
181 243,327,500 +5,031,500 46
182 248,430,000 +5,102,500 46
183 253,604,000 +5,174,000 46
184 258,850,000 +5,246,000 47
185 264,168,500 +5,318,500 47
186 269,560,000 +5,391,500 47
187 275,025,000 +5,465,000 47
188 280,564,000 +5,539,000 47
189 286,177,500 +5,613,500 48
190 291,866,000 +5,688,500 48
191 297,630,000 +5,764,000 48
192 303,470,000 +5,840,000 48
193 309,386,500 +5,916,500 48
194 315,380,000 +5,993,500 49
195 321,451,000 +6,071,000 49
196 327,600,000 +6,149,000 49
197 333,827,500 +6,227,500 49
198 340,134,000 +6,306,500 49
199 346,520,000 +6,386,000 50
200 352,986,000 +6,466,000 50
201 359,532,500 +6,546,500 50
202 366,160,000 +6,627,500 50
203 372,869,000 +6,709,000 50
204 379,660,000 +6,791,000 51
205 386,533,500 +6,873,500 51
206 393,490,000 +6,956,500 51
207 400,530,000 +7,040,000 51
208 407,654,000 +7,124,000 51
209 414,862,500 +7,208,500 52
210 422,156,000 +7,293,500 52
211 429,535,000 +7,379,000 52
212 437,000,000 +7,465,000 52
213 444,551,500 +7,551,500 52
214 452,190,000 +7,638,500 53
215 459,916,000 +7,726,000 53
216 467,730,000 +7,814,000 53
217 475,632,500 +7,902,500 53
218 483,624,000 +7,991,500 53
219 491,705,000 +8,081,000 54
220 499,876,000 +8,171,000 54
221 508,137,500 +8,261,500 54
222 516,490,000 +8,352,500 54
223 524,934,000 +8,444,000 54
224 533,470,000 +8,536,000 55
225 542,098,500 +8,628,500 55
226 550,820,000 +8,721,500 55
227 559,635,000 +8,815,000 55
228 568,544,000 +8,909,000 55
229 577,547,500 +9,003,500 56
230 586,646,000 +9,098,500 56
231 595,840,000 +9,194,000 56
232 605,130,000 +9,290,000 56
233 614,516,500 +9,386,500 56
234 624,000,000 +9,483,500 57
235 633,581,000 +9,581,000 57
236 643,260,000 +9,679,000 57
237 653,037,500 +9,777,500 57
238 662,914,000 +9,876,500 57
239 672,890,000 +9,976,000 58
240 682,966,000 +10,076,000 58
241 693,142,500 +10,176,500 58
242 703,420,000 +10,277,500 58
243 713,799,000 +10,379,000 58
244 724,280,000 +10,481,000 59
245 734,863,500 +10,583,500 59
246 745,550,000 +10,686,500 59
247 756,340,000 +10,790,000 59
248 767,234,000 +10,894,000 59
249 778,232,500 +10,998,500 60
250 789,336,000 +11,103,500 60

Level 51 needs 1,495,000xp, 20 logos
Level 52 needs 1,560,000xp, 20 logos
Level 53 needs 1,631,500xp, 20 logos
Level 54 needs 1,710,000xp, 21 logos
Level 55 needs 1,796,000xp, 21 logos
Level 56 needs 1,890,000xp, 21 logos
Level 57 needs 1,992,500xp, 21 logos
Level 58 needs 2,104,000xp, 21 logos
Level 59 needs 2,225,000xp, 22 logos
Level 60 needs 2,356,000xp, 22 logos
Level 61 needs 2,497,500xp, 22 logos
Level 62 needs 2,650,000xp
Level 63 needs 2,814,000xp
Level 64 needs 2,990,000xp
Level 65 needs 3,178,500xp
--Harry Dresden 07:53, 10 January 2011 (PST)

Hope you don't mind moving your data Harry --Shikao 23:39, 25 January 2011 (PST)

So far we have:

+59,000, +65,000, +71,000, +79,000, +86000. That's a difference of 6000, 6000, 8000, and 7000. I'm not finding any good equation to fit these 4 data points, which is odd, as that's usually enough to find most equations.

--Lxndr 15:31, 28 January 2011 (PST)

Not that it helps the formula, but the table misses that level 53 needs 500 on the end instead of 000. --Harry Dresden 20:19, 28 January 2011 (PST)

Thanks! It helps a lot, now we have 6k, 6.5k, 7k and 7.5k differences which is way more reasonable =] --Shikao 02:01, 29 January 2011 (PST)
Yes, that helps immensely! With that divide, we can see level 56 would need 1890000, which is what you got. 57 will probably need 1,992,500. Let's see if I'm right... --Lxndr 09:22, 31 January 2011 (PST)

Do you guys have enough data points for the formula up to 100 now? Looks like the chart has been correct the last 4 levels.--Harry Dresden 06:05, 19 February 2011 (PST)

Good to know =] Anyone know quick way to change excel table into wiki table? --Shikao 06:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
Luckily, it wasn't hard to find a page that does it. In case we would like more I can easily produce table to whatever lvl we want.--Shikao 07:13, 19 February 2011 (PST)
Care to add the formula to the page as well? --Muhandes 14:45, 19 February 2011 (PST)
I can only provide XP to gain formula. For total XP for given level I would need nice formula for sum of arithemic series (yes, I know that series is sum of sequence).--Shikao 06:05, 21 February 2011 (PST)
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