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#for spells with soft caps: as much as possible +X SD goes under cap and that part is affected by +Y% SD, any leftover from +X SD falls into spells' over-cap formula.(checked for Ice Bolt, will test other spells tomorrow)<br> | #for spells with soft caps: as much as possible +X SD goes under cap and that part is affected by +Y% SD, any leftover from +X SD falls into spells' over-cap formula.(checked for Ice Bolt, will test other spells tomorrow)<br> | ||
:example: Ice Bolt with 10 skill points so cap is 60, anything over cap is square rooted. I have bonuses +10SD and +20%SD. I rolled 54 for base damage, total damage would be: (54+6)*1.2+sqrt(4)=74 --[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 07:45, 5 January 2011 (PST) | :example: Ice Bolt with 10 skill points so cap is 60, anything over cap is square rooted. I have bonuses +10SD and +20%SD. I rolled 54 for base damage, total damage would be: (54+6)*1.2+sqrt(4)=74 --[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 07:45, 5 January 2011 (PST) | ||
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| + | :: This disagrees with what you wrote above. You said percentile bonus is applied first, now you are saying the non-percentile bonus is applied first. Which one is it? --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 08:50, 5 January 2011 (PST) | ||
Revision as of 09:50, 5 January 2011
Enerbun sphere. +20, level 12 offhand. --MN (#228) (T|C) 18:32, 13 April 2008 (MST)
Isinglass orb. +6, level 4 offhand. --Usi 02:05, 3 May 2008 (MST)
Which skills are 'spells'? --Lxndr 10:21, 1 January 2011 (PST)
Psion and Elemental attack skills --Shikao 12:07, 1 January 2011 (PST)
Formula
I wondered how +X and +Y% works combined, so I did some testing. Checked only on one spell (Firestorm), but I assume formula is common for all spells:
Total damage of spell = round(1.Y*damage of spell)+X
- Y is sum of +% spell damage
- X is sum of + spell damage
I think it's worth putting on page, but I will leave wording for someone better at it =P --Shikao 08:24, 2 January 2011 (PST)
- Added. --Muhandes 05:49, 4 January 2011 (PST)
Caps and bonus
Page states:
- Note that damage caps apply. That is, if a spell has a damage cap, spell damage modifiers cannot give more damage than the cap.
I haven't check spells and bonuses particularly for this, but I don't think it's true. I will investigate it on nearest occasion, but in meantime could some tell me what is source of this statement?--Shikao 08:54, 4 January 2011 (PST)
- The source is a discussion with Ryme on chat. I must admit I never checked it. Do you have contradictory data? --Muhandes 01:45, 5 January 2011 (PST)
- Right now I can say that +%spell damage can definitely raise damage over caps. But as I said, I will check it more thoroughly. When did this discussion happen? Before or after introduction of skill points? --Shikao 02:14, 5 January 2011 (PST)
- Ok... let's try to present my findings... (SD = spell damage)
- formula I presented in section above is true for Firestorm (I guess it will work for Psionic Blast too, but it's unchecked for now)
- +X SD cannot raise damage above hard caps (Throw Sparks, Telekinesis), but +Y% SD can.
- for spells with soft caps: as much as possible +X SD goes under cap and that part is affected by +Y% SD, any leftover from +X SD falls into spells' over-cap formula.(checked for Ice Bolt, will test other spells tomorrow)
- example: Ice Bolt with 10 skill points so cap is 60, anything over cap is square rooted. I have bonuses +10SD and +20%SD. I rolled 54 for base damage, total damage would be: (54+6)*1.2+sqrt(4)=74 --Shikao 07:45, 5 January 2011 (PST)
- This disagrees with what you wrote above. You said percentile bonus is applied first, now you are saying the non-percentile bonus is applied first. Which one is it? --Muhandes 08:50, 5 January 2011 (PST)
