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The one in bold is a  modified strike back message, while the italic one is the extra effect of the gong, and the foe became stunned in the next round. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 06:37, 3 June 2012 (PDT)
 
The one in bold is a  modified strike back message, while the italic one is the extra effect of the gong, and the foe became stunned in the next round. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 06:37, 3 June 2012 (PDT)
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against clavis clepsydra:
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You're caught off guard, and your opponent acts first. Your opponent attacks ... Your opponent has a critical hit! She hits for 21 damage.
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'''Part of your opponent's blow comes into contact with your sonic defenses, causing your equipment to reverberate with a resounding CLONGGGGG! It causes {{col|sonic|2 damage}} to your opponent.'''
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In retribution for the attack your defenses trigger a psychic echo that fires back to your opponent for {{col|psychic|4 damage}}.
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Justin is immune to psychic, clavis isn't. Based on this first number retribution seems to be round(0.20*foe damage).<br>Also, this retribution seems to be independent from the type of damage suffered.<br>Curiously, the strike back message this time looks like the normal one and I think the foe wasn't stunned in the following turn. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 04:37, 7 June 2012 (PDT)
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Just now, against big charlie, he hit me for 78 damage, psychic retribution of 16 (~20%), modified strike back message and he was stunned in the following turn. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 04:50, 7 June 2012 (PDT)
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My current observation is thus:
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If the foe's attack doesn't do enough damage (no idea how much is enough, but being in ancient crypts is enough for a level 50 character, being in rogue ranch isn't (Even with -75% dodge and -125% initiative)), you just get normal sonic stikeback. Damage might accumulate over several attacks (that is, I have seen GONGGGGG on a second or third hit in rogue ranch (but sometimes even first, iirc))
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If the foe's attack is a critical, you just get normal sonic strikeback.
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If you already got a GONGGGGG, you get normal sonic strikeback.
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If none of the above apply (i.e. it's the first time this combat that you were hit enough, and it isn't a critical), you get GONGGGGG and the foe is stunned (in addition to sonic strikeback damage).
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Patojonas' psychic strikeback has to be from something else, I never noticed any of that. Not even Big Charlie or Justin.
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(and the sonic strikeback is 10%, as mentioned in the item description) --[[User:XKiv|XKiv]] 03:10, 8 June 2012 (PDT)
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Heh, when I saw you saying it had to be something else I went looking for what else it could be.....turns out it is the [[Talk:burning disco shoes|burning disco shoes]] psychic strikeback....since it mentioned an echo I thought it was associated with gong somehow, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out [[User:XKiv|XKiv]] ;)
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--[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 12:16, 8 June 2012 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 11:16, 8 June 2012

Message for stunning reverb: Part of your opponent's blow comes into contact with your gong, causing a stunning GONGGGGG! It both explains why they're called that and causes 7 damage to your opponent.

It's sonic damage, seems to be around 10 here (ancient crypts, getting hit for ~150-300. Foe is stunned for one round. --XKiv 06:20, 2 June 2012 (PDT)


Against Justin Illusion:

Your opponent attacks ... He hits you for 12 (psychic) damage.

Part of your opponent's blow comes into contact with your gong, causing a stunning GONGGGGG! It both explains why they're called that and causes 1 damage to your opponent.

In retribution for the attack your defenses trigger a psychic echo that fires back to your opponent for 1 damage.

The one in bold is a modified strike back message, while the italic one is the extra effect of the gong, and the foe became stunned in the next round. Patojonas 06:37, 3 June 2012 (PDT)


against clavis clepsydra: You're caught off guard, and your opponent acts first. Your opponent attacks ... Your opponent has a critical hit! She hits for 21 damage.

Part of your opponent's blow comes into contact with your sonic defenses, causing your equipment to reverberate with a resounding CLONGGGGG! It causes 2 damage to your opponent.

In retribution for the attack your defenses trigger a psychic echo that fires back to your opponent for 4 damage.


Justin is immune to psychic, clavis isn't. Based on this first number retribution seems to be round(0.20*foe damage).
Also, this retribution seems to be independent from the type of damage suffered.
Curiously, the strike back message this time looks like the normal one and I think the foe wasn't stunned in the following turn. Patojonas 04:37, 7 June 2012 (PDT)

Just now, against big charlie, he hit me for 78 damage, psychic retribution of 16 (~20%), modified strike back message and he was stunned in the following turn. Patojonas 04:50, 7 June 2012 (PDT)


My current observation is thus:

If the foe's attack doesn't do enough damage (no idea how much is enough, but being in ancient crypts is enough for a level 50 character, being in rogue ranch isn't (Even with -75% dodge and -125% initiative)), you just get normal sonic stikeback. Damage might accumulate over several attacks (that is, I have seen GONGGGGG on a second or third hit in rogue ranch (but sometimes even first, iirc)) If the foe's attack is a critical, you just get normal sonic strikeback. If you already got a GONGGGGG, you get normal sonic strikeback. If none of the above apply (i.e. it's the first time this combat that you were hit enough, and it isn't a critical), you get GONGGGGG and the foe is stunned (in addition to sonic strikeback damage).

Patojonas' psychic strikeback has to be from something else, I never noticed any of that. Not even Big Charlie or Justin. (and the sonic strikeback is 10%, as mentioned in the item description) --XKiv 03:10, 8 June 2012 (PDT)

Heh, when I saw you saying it had to be something else I went looking for what else it could be.....turns out it is the burning disco shoes psychic strikeback....since it mentioned an echo I thought it was associated with gong somehow, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out XKiv ;)

--Patojonas 12:16, 8 June 2012 (PDT)