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Shouldn't this be a Noncombat Adventure instead of an Enemy? --Ch00k | Shouldn't this be a Noncombat Adventure instead of an Enemy? --Ch00k | ||
| − | Well, obviously, these are the choices I got, which are not the same for everyone. I'll leave it be until the exact pattern is spaded. | + | Well, obviously, these are the choices I got, which are not the same for everyone. I'll leave it be until the exact pattern is spaded. It it matters, female gadgeteer.--[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 21:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | (no number indicates no script drop) | ||
| + | Male Naturalist, Just (#1578) | ||
| + | *Juliet, Beowulf, Tybalt, Gawaine, Robin Hood; | ||
| + | *Benvolio: 2 | ||
| + | *Desdemona: 5 | ||
| + | *Mercutio: 4 | ||
| + | *Portia: 7 | ||
| + | *Bassanio; | ||
| + | *Romeo: 3 | ||
| + | *Petruchio; | ||
| + | *Katherina: 1 | ||
| + | *Oberon; | ||
| + | *Titania: 6 | ||
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| + | Male Psion, Judicious (#21779) | ||
| + | *Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood; | ||
| + | *Benvolio, Bassanio; | ||
| + | *Desdemona: 2 | ||
| + | *Katherina: 5 | ||
| + | *Mercutio; | ||
| + | *Portia: 4 | ||
| + | *Titania: 7 | ||
| + | *Romeo; | ||
| + | *Juliet: 3 | ||
| + | *Lady Capulet: 1 | ||
| + | *Oberon; | ||
| + | *Othello; | ||
| + | *Petruchio; | ||
| + | *Tybalt: 6 | ||
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| + | Male Gadgeteer, Watchdog (#12606) | ||
| + | *Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood; | ||
| + | *Benvolio: 2 | ||
| + | *Desdemona, Katherina; | ||
| + | *Mercutio: 5 | ||
| + | *Portia; | ||
| + | *Othello: 4 | ||
| + | *Oberon: 7 | ||
| + | *Romeo: 3 | ||
| + | *Tybalt, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Titania; | ||
| + | *Petruchio: 1 | ||
| + | *Bassanio: 6 | ||
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| + | --[[User:Dfmchfhf|Dfmchfhf]] 23:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | '''My (JazzTap's) results:''' | ||
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| + | Lady Capulet - Failure; | ||
| + | Robin Hood - Failure; | ||
| + | Titantia - Failure; | ||
| + | Beowulf - Failure; | ||
| + | Gawain - Failure, with a Scalpel | ||
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| + | Oberon - 2; | ||
| + | Bassanio - 5 | ||
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| + | Desdemona - Failure; | ||
| + | Katherina - Failure | ||
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| + | Othello - 4 | ||
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| + | Portia - Failure | ||
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| + | Petruchio - 7; | ||
| + | Benvolio - 3 | ||
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| + | Juliet - Failure | ||
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| + | Mercutio - 1 | ||
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| + | Tybalt - Failure | ||
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| + | Romeo - 6 | ||
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| + | I don't really get it; I just bulldozered through. Then again, I've only lightly studied Romeo and Juliet, so I haven't much clue who the others are. | ||
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| + | --[[User:JazzTap|JazzTap]] 03:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Some observations: The data I added was for a female Gadgeteer.<br> | ||
| + | '''Correct:''' Benvolio, Desdemona, Katherina, Mercutio, Portia, Romeo, Titania.<br> | ||
| + | '''Incorrect:''' Bassanio, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Oberon, Othello, Petruchio, Tybalt.<br> | ||
| + | Obviously, these are in pairs:<br> | ||
| + | Romeo/Juliet<br> | ||
| + | Titania/Oberon<br> | ||
| + | Desdemona/Othello<br> | ||
| + | Katherina/Petruchio<br> | ||
| + | Portia/Bassanio<br> | ||
| + | Benvolio/Tybalt (cousins of Romeo/Juliet)<br> | ||
| + | Mercutio/Lady Capulet (well, not really a pair)<br> | ||
| + | Mercutio and Benvolio are friends of Romeo so it makes sense to get them together | ||
| + | --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 22:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Tabulating the results so far: | ||
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| + | {| | ||
| + | ! Name !! F/M !! E/G/N/P !! Romeo/Juliet !! Benvolio/Tybalt !! Mercutio/Lady Capulet !! Titania/Oberon !! Desdemona/Othello !! Katherina/Petruchio !! Portia/Bassanio | ||
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| + | | Muhandes || F || G || Romeo, 4 || Benvolio, 7 || Mercutio, 1 || Titania, 2 || Desdemona, 3 || Katherina, 5 || Portia, 6 | ||
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| + | | #21779 || M || P || Juliet, 3 || Tybalt, 6 || Lady Capulet, 1 || Titania, 7 || Desdemona, 2 || Katherina, 5 || Portia, 4 | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | #12606 || M || G || Romeo, 3 || Benvolio, 2 || Mercutio, 5 || Oberon, 7 || Othello, 4 || Petruchio, 1 || Bassanio, 6 | ||
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| + | | JazzTap || || || Romeo, 6 || Benvolio, 3 || Mercutio, 1 || Oberon, 2 || Othello, 4 || Petruchio, 7 || Bassanio, 5 | ||
| + | |} | ||
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| + | Pattern so far suggest two groups: Romeo/Benvolio/Mercutio vs. Juliet/Tybalt/Lady Capulet and Titania/Desdemona/Katherina/Portia vs. Oberon/Othello/Petruchio/Bassanio. And it's not only gender/class, there is something more. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 07:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | The current page seems to be making a lot of assumptions that haven't been verified... [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] | ||
| + | : Yes, this was just to get it started. Now that we have the discussion here I removed speculations. Why don't you add your own correct choices to the table above? --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 08:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Here, in order, are the correct choices offered in the order they occurred. The number in () next to the name is the script page gained. | ||
| + | *Level 35 male Psion, Professor X: Petruchio (2), Bassanio (5), Romeo (4), Mercutio (7), Benvolio (3), Othello (1), Oberon (6). | ||
| + | *Male gadgeteer: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) | ||
| + | *male class unknown: Mercutio (2), Katherina (5), Portia (4), Desdemona (7), Titania (3), Benvolio (1), Romeo (6) | ||
| + | *male class unknown: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) | ||
| + | *male Psion: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) --Darkzumi | ||
| + | *male Psion level 37: Juliet (2), Titania (5), Tybalt (4), Lady Capulet (7), Desdemona (3), Katherina (1), Portia (6) --Hawksmoor | ||
| + | :: The order in which you get the scripts is pretty clear. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Female Psion, Jean Grey: Romeo, Mercutio, Titania, Katherina, Desdemona, Portia, Benvolio --Darkzumi | ||
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| + | So the current page says "varies by player." That seems to imply I should be getting the same selections over multiple retcons. However, experience seems to disagree with that. Is it reasonable to change those words to, perhaps, 'per player per retcon'? --[[User:Lxndr|Lxndr]] 14:24, 17 January 2011 (PST) | ||
| + | :I guess it wasn't updated since retcon implentation, so it's reasonable to change wording.--[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 23:00, 17 January 2011 (PST) | ||
| + | :: I have noticed that the correct choices seem to be the same for everyone starting on a given day. So if one choice is correct and you started the quest the same day as someone else, their choices are the same as yours. [[User:RKBrumbelow|RKBrumbelow]] ([[User talk:RKBrumbelow|talk]]) 09:53, 24 June 2013 (PDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 08:53, 24 June 2013
Shouldn't this be a Noncombat Adventure instead of an Enemy? --Ch00k
Well, obviously, these are the choices I got, which are not the same for everyone. I'll leave it be until the exact pattern is spaded. It it matters, female gadgeteer.--Muhandes 21:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
(no number indicates no script drop) Male Naturalist, Just (#1578)
- Juliet, Beowulf, Tybalt, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
- Benvolio: 2
- Desdemona: 5
- Mercutio: 4
- Portia: 7
- Bassanio;
- Romeo: 3
- Petruchio;
- Katherina: 1
- Oberon;
- Titania: 6
Male Psion, Judicious (#21779)
- Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
- Benvolio, Bassanio;
- Desdemona: 2
- Katherina: 5
- Mercutio;
- Portia: 4
- Titania: 7
- Romeo;
- Juliet: 3
- Lady Capulet: 1
- Oberon;
- Othello;
- Petruchio;
- Tybalt: 6
Male Gadgeteer, Watchdog (#12606)
- Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
- Benvolio: 2
- Desdemona, Katherina;
- Mercutio: 5
- Portia;
- Othello: 4
- Oberon: 7
- Romeo: 3
- Tybalt, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Titania;
- Petruchio: 1
- Bassanio: 6
--Dfmchfhf 23:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
My (JazzTap's) results:
Lady Capulet - Failure; Robin Hood - Failure; Titantia - Failure; Beowulf - Failure; Gawain - Failure, with a Scalpel
Oberon - 2; Bassanio - 5
Desdemona - Failure; Katherina - Failure
Othello - 4
Portia - Failure
Petruchio - 7; Benvolio - 3
Juliet - Failure
Mercutio - 1
Tybalt - Failure
Romeo - 6
I don't really get it; I just bulldozered through. Then again, I've only lightly studied Romeo and Juliet, so I haven't much clue who the others are.
--JazzTap 03:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Some observations: The data I added was for a female Gadgeteer.
Correct: Benvolio, Desdemona, Katherina, Mercutio, Portia, Romeo, Titania.
Incorrect: Bassanio, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Oberon, Othello, Petruchio, Tybalt.
Obviously, these are in pairs:
Romeo/Juliet
Titania/Oberon
Desdemona/Othello
Katherina/Petruchio
Portia/Bassanio
Benvolio/Tybalt (cousins of Romeo/Juliet)
Mercutio/Lady Capulet (well, not really a pair)
Mercutio and Benvolio are friends of Romeo so it makes sense to get them together
--Muhandes 22:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Tabulating the results so far:
| Name | F/M | E/G/N/P | Romeo/Juliet | Benvolio/Tybalt | Mercutio/Lady Capulet | Titania/Oberon | Desdemona/Othello | Katherina/Petruchio | Portia/Bassanio |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Muhandes | F | G | Romeo, 4 | Benvolio, 7 | Mercutio, 1 | Titania, 2 | Desdemona, 3 | Katherina, 5 | Portia, 6 |
| #21779 | M | P | Juliet, 3 | Tybalt, 6 | Lady Capulet, 1 | Titania, 7 | Desdemona, 2 | Katherina, 5 | Portia, 4 |
| #12606 | M | G | Romeo, 3 | Benvolio, 2 | Mercutio, 5 | Oberon, 7 | Othello, 4 | Petruchio, 1 | Bassanio, 6 |
| JazzTap | Romeo, 6 | Benvolio, 3 | Mercutio, 1 | Oberon, 2 | Othello, 4 | Petruchio, 7 | Bassanio, 5 |
Pattern so far suggest two groups: Romeo/Benvolio/Mercutio vs. Juliet/Tybalt/Lady Capulet and Titania/Desdemona/Katherina/Portia vs. Oberon/Othello/Petruchio/Bassanio. And it's not only gender/class, there is something more.
--Muhandes 07:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
The current page seems to be making a lot of assumptions that haven't been verified... Cristiona
- Yes, this was just to get it started. Now that we have the discussion here I removed speculations. Why don't you add your own correct choices to the table above? --Muhandes 08:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Here, in order, are the correct choices offered in the order they occurred. The number in () next to the name is the script page gained.
- Level 35 male Psion, Professor X: Petruchio (2), Bassanio (5), Romeo (4), Mercutio (7), Benvolio (3), Othello (1), Oberon (6).
- Male gadgeteer: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
- male class unknown: Mercutio (2), Katherina (5), Portia (4), Desdemona (7), Titania (3), Benvolio (1), Romeo (6)
- male class unknown: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
- male Psion: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) --Darkzumi
- male Psion level 37: Juliet (2), Titania (5), Tybalt (4), Lady Capulet (7), Desdemona (3), Katherina (1), Portia (6) --Hawksmoor
- The order in which you get the scripts is pretty clear. --Muhandes 09:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Female Psion, Jean Grey: Romeo, Mercutio, Titania, Katherina, Desdemona, Portia, Benvolio --Darkzumi
So the current page says "varies by player." That seems to imply I should be getting the same selections over multiple retcons. However, experience seems to disagree with that. Is it reasonable to change those words to, perhaps, 'per player per retcon'? --Lxndr 14:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)
- I guess it wasn't updated since retcon implentation, so it's reasonable to change wording.--Shikao 23:00, 17 January 2011 (PST)
- I have noticed that the correct choices seem to be the same for everyone starting on a given day. So if one choice is correct and you started the quest the same day as someone else, their choices are the same as yours. RKBrumbelow (talk) 09:53, 24 June 2013 (PDT)
