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*Mercutio: 4
 
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(and I'm out of turns today, will complete this set later)
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*Bassanio;
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*Romeo: 3
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*Petruchio;
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*Katherina: 1
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*Oberon;
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Male Psion, Judicious (#21779)
 
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--[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 07:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 07:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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The current page seems to be making a lot of assumptions that haven't been verified... [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]]
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: Yes, this was just to get it started. Now that we have the discussion here I removed speculations. Why don't you add your own correct choices to the table above? --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 08:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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Here, in order, are the correct choices offered in the order they occurred.  The number in () next to the name is the script page gained.
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*Level 35 male Psion, Professor X: Petruchio (2), Bassanio (5), Romeo (4), Mercutio (7), Benvolio (3), Othello (1), Oberon (6).
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*Male gadgeteer: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
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*male class unknown: Mercutio (2), Katherina (5), Portia (4), Desdemona (7), Titania (3), Benvolio (1), Romeo (6)
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*male class unknown: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
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*male Psion: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) --Darkzumi
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*male Psion level 37: Juliet (2), Titania (5), Tybalt (4), Lady Capulet (7), Desdemona (3), Katherina (1), Portia (6) --Hawksmoor
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:: The order in which you get the scripts is pretty clear. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 09:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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Female Psion, Jean Grey: Romeo, Mercutio, Titania, Katherina, Desdemona, Portia, Benvolio  --Darkzumi
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So the current page says "varies by player." That seems to imply I should be getting the same selections over multiple retcons. However, experience seems to disagree with that. Is it reasonable to change those words to, perhaps, 'per player per retcon'? --[[User:Lxndr|Lxndr]] 14:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)
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:I guess it wasn't updated since retcon implentation, so it's reasonable to change wording.--[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 23:00, 17 January 2011 (PST)
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:: I have noticed that the correct choices seem to be the same for everyone starting on a given day. So if one choice is correct and you started the quest the same day as someone else, their choices are the same as yours. [[User:RKBrumbelow|RKBrumbelow]] ([[User talk:RKBrumbelow|talk]]) 09:53, 24 June 2013 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 09:53, 24 June 2013

Shouldn't this be a Noncombat Adventure instead of an Enemy? --Ch00k

Well, obviously, these are the choices I got, which are not the same for everyone. I'll leave it be until the exact pattern is spaded. It it matters, female gadgeteer.--Muhandes 21:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

(no number indicates no script drop) Male Naturalist, Just (#1578)

  • Juliet, Beowulf, Tybalt, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
  • Benvolio: 2
  • Desdemona: 5
  • Mercutio: 4
  • Portia: 7
  • Bassanio;
  • Romeo: 3
  • Petruchio;
  • Katherina: 1
  • Oberon;
  • Titania: 6

Male Psion, Judicious (#21779)

  • Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
  • Benvolio, Bassanio;
  • Desdemona: 2
  • Katherina: 5
  • Mercutio;
  • Portia: 4
  • Titania: 7
  • Romeo;
  • Juliet: 3
  • Lady Capulet: 1
  • Oberon;
  • Othello;
  • Petruchio;
  • Tybalt: 6

Male Gadgeteer, Watchdog (#12606)

  • Beowulf, Gawaine, Robin Hood;
  • Benvolio: 2
  • Desdemona, Katherina;
  • Mercutio: 5
  • Portia;
  • Othello: 4
  • Oberon: 7
  • Romeo: 3
  • Tybalt, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Titania;
  • Petruchio: 1
  • Bassanio: 6

--Dfmchfhf 23:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

My (JazzTap's) results:

Lady Capulet - Failure; Robin Hood - Failure; Titantia - Failure; Beowulf - Failure; Gawain - Failure, with a Scalpel

Oberon - 2; Bassanio - 5

Desdemona - Failure; Katherina - Failure

Othello - 4

Portia - Failure

Petruchio - 7; Benvolio - 3

Juliet - Failure

Mercutio - 1

Tybalt - Failure

Romeo - 6

I don't really get it; I just bulldozered through. Then again, I've only lightly studied Romeo and Juliet, so I haven't much clue who the others are.

--JazzTap 03:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Some observations: The data I added was for a female Gadgeteer.
Correct: Benvolio, Desdemona, Katherina, Mercutio, Portia, Romeo, Titania.
Incorrect: Bassanio, Juliet, Lady Capulet, Oberon, Othello, Petruchio, Tybalt.
Obviously, these are in pairs:
Romeo/Juliet
Titania/Oberon
Desdemona/Othello
Katherina/Petruchio
Portia/Bassanio
Benvolio/Tybalt (cousins of Romeo/Juliet)
Mercutio/Lady Capulet (well, not really a pair)
Mercutio and Benvolio are friends of Romeo so it makes sense to get them together --Muhandes 22:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Tabulating the results so far:

Name F/M E/G/N/P Romeo/Juliet Benvolio/Tybalt Mercutio/Lady Capulet Titania/Oberon Desdemona/Othello Katherina/Petruchio Portia/Bassanio
Muhandes F G Romeo, 4 Benvolio, 7 Mercutio, 1 Titania, 2 Desdemona, 3 Katherina, 5 Portia, 6
#21779 M P Juliet, 3 Tybalt, 6 Lady Capulet, 1 Titania, 7 Desdemona, 2 Katherina, 5 Portia, 4
#12606 M G Romeo, 3 Benvolio, 2 Mercutio, 5 Oberon, 7 Othello, 4 Petruchio, 1 Bassanio, 6
JazzTap Romeo, 6 Benvolio, 3 Mercutio, 1 Oberon, 2 Othello, 4 Petruchio, 7 Bassanio, 5

Pattern so far suggest two groups: Romeo/Benvolio/Mercutio vs. Juliet/Tybalt/Lady Capulet and Titania/Desdemona/Katherina/Portia vs. Oberon/Othello/Petruchio/Bassanio. And it's not only gender/class, there is something more.

--Muhandes 07:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

The current page seems to be making a lot of assumptions that haven't been verified... Cristiona

Yes, this was just to get it started. Now that we have the discussion here I removed speculations. Why don't you add your own correct choices to the table above? --Muhandes 08:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Here, in order, are the correct choices offered in the order they occurred. The number in () next to the name is the script page gained.

  • Level 35 male Psion, Professor X: Petruchio (2), Bassanio (5), Romeo (4), Mercutio (7), Benvolio (3), Othello (1), Oberon (6).
  • Male gadgeteer: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
  • male class unknown: Mercutio (2), Katherina (5), Portia (4), Desdemona (7), Titania (3), Benvolio (1), Romeo (6)
  • male class unknown: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6)
  • male Psion: Tybalt (2), Lady Capulet (5), Juliet (4), Desdemona (7), Katherina (3), Portia (1), Titania (6) --Darkzumi
  • male Psion level 37: Juliet (2), Titania (5), Tybalt (4), Lady Capulet (7), Desdemona (3), Katherina (1), Portia (6) --Hawksmoor
The order in which you get the scripts is pretty clear. --Muhandes 09:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Female Psion, Jean Grey: Romeo, Mercutio, Titania, Katherina, Desdemona, Portia, Benvolio --Darkzumi

So the current page says "varies by player." That seems to imply I should be getting the same selections over multiple retcons. However, experience seems to disagree with that. Is it reasonable to change those words to, perhaps, 'per player per retcon'? --Lxndr 14:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)

I guess it wasn't updated since retcon implentation, so it's reasonable to change wording.--Shikao 23:00, 17 January 2011 (PST)
I have noticed that the correct choices seem to be the same for everyone starting on a given day. So if one choice is correct and you started the quest the same day as someone else, their choices are the same as yours. RKBrumbelow (talk) 09:53, 24 June 2013 (PDT)