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:It's great to me. Now I know what to farm and for how long. Would've done something similar for myself, but not this nice. Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Alarion|Alarion]] 22:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:It's great to me. Now I know what to farm and for how long. Would've done something similar for myself, but not this nice. Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Alarion|Alarion]] 22:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Resemblance to KoL's Crackpot Mystic's Shed ==
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I've moved the suggested reference here so it could be discussed:
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* The message you obtain when the Creepy Old Man cannot produce anything from your artifacts is possibly also a reference to the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Crackpot_Mystic%27s_Shed Kingdom of Loathing], given that it resembles the message you get when visiting the Crackpot Mystic without a combination of pixels which he can use to "pixel-craft" items.
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* Strangely but expectedly, the Creepy Old House appears to be analogous to the Crackpot Mystic's Shed in the [http://kol.coldfront.net Kingdom of Loathing]. It can also be said that the quest by which you gain access to the House could have been inspired by the 8-bit realm in the same game, given the mechanics involved (and the storyline, but only just).
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The messages resemblance might as well be coincidental. The Mystic says "Alas, I cannot make anything with the Pixels you have thus far collected." compared to "Alas, I can not make anything from what ye possess."
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I don't really see the resemblance in mechanics or storyline. Mechanics wise, this is the same mechanic as the [[Wade-bot Base]], it has nothing to do with the 8-bit realm. Storywise I see no resemblance at all. The only resemblance I do see is that these are guys that live in houses. So what?
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If you want to restore the references please justify it here first. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 08:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 01:15, 18 June 2009

Furnace of Yeb (+50% weapon damage, +50 fire damage, +10% of weapon damage returned as HP)
2 glasses of Leng
1 milk of Shupnikkurat
1 Nathian sphere shard
3 seeds of Azathoth
1 squamous leather
2 samples of The Black
50,000 chips

Mirror of Nitocris
4 glasses of Leng
2 vials of milk of Shupnikkurat
3 Nathian sphere shards
1 seed of Azathoth
50,000 chips

Pallid Mask (Allows soul gazing., +10 XP per combat, +20% Strength, +20% Intellect, +20% Reflexes)
2 glasses of Leng
1 milk of Shupnikkurat
5 squamous leathers
2 samples of The Black
50,000 chips

Ring of Solis
3 glasses of Leng
3 Nathian sphere shards
3 seeds of Azathoth
1 The Black
50,000 chips

There's also a Torch of Nug, but in my excitement I didn't record it and instead bought it. And this isn't all of them, I think. It's hard to say still. --MN (#228) (T|C) 05:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Furnace of Yeb doesn't have 10% HP sap, that's Torch of Nug. Furnace is the ranged 'copy' with +5 ranged attacks. - Satan

Trident of Nodens (ranged, +attacks, PP%/HP% leech, assorted elemental)
2 Lemurian fragments
1 poisonous hide
1 seed of Azathoth
1 The Black
30,000 chips

Crystallizer of Dreams (offhand, +%physical resist, +spell damage, +%init)
3 Lemurian fragments
2 seeds of Azathoth
30,000 chips

Vambraces of the Star Spawn (gloves, -toughness, 10 damage to attacker, -fumble chance)
2 poisonous hides
1 horrid tentacle
2 squamous leathers
30,000 chips

Robe of Summanus (full body, +noncombats, +criticals, +%ele resist, +reputation modifiers)
1 Lemurian fragment
1 poisonous hide
1 seed of Azathoth
2 squamous leathers
30,000 chips

More stuff; less straight-up powerful, but it fills the other equipment slots quite nicely, along with offering a less brute-force approach to things. I've also come into possession of a Shining Trapezohedron (accessory, +noncombats, +10HP/turn, +~3 new sidekick summons per day), though I didn't bother recording the recipe for that. --JazzTap 06:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

If someone has a level 29 character, please don't level up, because after acquiring the dreamer's clock, the old man refuses to see you until you level up. I forgot to save the text so someone else needs to get it. -PKProStudio

  Glasses of Leng Horrid Tentacles Lemurian Fragments Vials of Milk of Shupnikkurat Nathian Sphere Shards Poisonous Hides Seeds of Azathoth Shan Carapace Squamous Leathers Strange Fungi Samples of the Black Pieces Tok'l Ore Chips
Misericorde of the Squid   3         1       1   30000
Trident of Nodens     2     1 1       1   30000
Crystallizer of Dreams     3       2           30000
Vambraces of the Star Spawn   1       2     2       30000
Robe of Summanus     1     1 1   2       30000
Scourge of Souls             1 2 3   1 1 40000
N'Gah-Kthun's Lancer             2     1 1 4 40000
Polar Star             4 2   2     40000
Treader of the Dust's Sandals             1 2 3 1 1   40000
Shining Trapezohedron             3 1   2   2 40000
Torch of Nug 1     1 1   3   1   2   50000
Furnace of Yeb 2     1 1   3       2   50000
Mirror of Nitocris 4     2 3   1           50000
Pallid Mask 2     1         5   2   50000
Ring of Solis 3       3   3       1   50000
  12 4 6 5 8 4 26 7 16 6 12 7 600000

Is this table useful to anyone? --neocamp22

It's great to me. Now I know what to farm and for how long. Would've done something similar for myself, but not this nice. Thanks a bunch. --Alarion 22:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Resemblance to KoL's Crackpot Mystic's Shed

I've moved the suggested reference here so it could be discussed:

  • The message you obtain when the Creepy Old Man cannot produce anything from your artifacts is possibly also a reference to the Kingdom of Loathing, given that it resembles the message you get when visiting the Crackpot Mystic without a combination of pixels which he can use to "pixel-craft" items.
  • Strangely but expectedly, the Creepy Old House appears to be analogous to the Crackpot Mystic's Shed in the Kingdom of Loathing. It can also be said that the quest by which you gain access to the House could have been inspired by the 8-bit realm in the same game, given the mechanics involved (and the storyline, but only just).

The messages resemblance might as well be coincidental. The Mystic says "Alas, I cannot make anything with the Pixels you have thus far collected." compared to "Alas, I can not make anything from what ye possess."

I don't really see the resemblance in mechanics or storyline. Mechanics wise, this is the same mechanic as the Wade-bot Base, it has nothing to do with the 8-bit realm. Storywise I see no resemblance at all. The only resemblance I do see is that these are guys that live in houses. So what?

If you want to restore the references please justify it here first. --Muhandes 08:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)