Talk:Gyrodreidel

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You take a couple spins with the shopkeeper. You end up down 10 silver stars, but get a great dreidel!

itemid 1969 go Apollo !

--Patojonas (talk) 20:17, 30 November 2012 (PST)


Some data I collected (on a thewsday) with total +23% chips. Critical Spin!/Critical Hit! are bold, damage on nun is ice type and critical hit! is also blue colored, chocolate coins is bold. nun, shin, hei, and gimmel are all in italics in all instances. Separated by level 6 and level 7 in case there's any level factor. Critical spin/hit gets double the range of regular on inspection, and I've found a rough estimate of critical spins occurring 10% of the time.


--Satan 3:01, 1 December 2012 (CST)


Here's some data I collected on this skill:

Levels 1-7, 15 and 16

High level alts, something seems to be affecting the Nun values, shouldn't be the foes since they were all cannonball and thus super weak and none of their parameters should surpass the level formula. One possible explanation is Nun having a formula different from Hei but by so little that only at high levels one can tell apart :S

Levels 58-60 and 92

And last but not least, values taken at level 9 from uses on the Bard boss, just using the skill and running away.

hei:43,43

shin:24,24,24,25,26,28

gimmel:86,86,86,86
critical gimmel: 172-196

nun:10-14

331 chips (43% bonus chips, can't remember if value on the left is before or after removing the chip bonus)

It is clear to me from experience that Hei and Gimmel values scale to the foe's chips parameter. It is also clear form this data that gimmel is double the value of hei when foe parameters are concerned. I was wearing the Axe Hero guitar so it firing the chips bonus song might have caused that 192 gimmel critical. Only happened once.

It is possible that the parameter is the mean value of the chip's range (ought to be some fixed value since the skill results stick to 1 number) but would require a foe with high chip values to have it's chip range spaded and also possible to kill with a low level so the level formula has lower values. Patojonas 07:42, 10 January 2014 (PST)