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==Activation Texts==
 
Can someone post effects here, so I can decide whether to get them or not please:)[[User:Hero of the universe|Hero of the universe]] 14:03, 1 April 2008 (MST)
 
Can someone post effects here, so I can decide whether to get them or not please:)[[User:Hero of the universe|Hero of the universe]] 14:03, 1 April 2008 (MST)
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The pants turn an eerie electric yellow, the color of some sugary kids' drink, and your surroundings glow as if under blacklight. You realize this must be the precise color of sheep that androids dream about.
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:The electric yellow of the dreampants makes you feel more energetic. '''You gain XX PP'''. Having passed that acid test and provided you with some cool aid, they revert to their normal state.
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Your dreampants shift until they're a nice, soothing purple. Or maybe it's a reddish blue. You're not quite sure.
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:The soothing purple of the dreampants makes you feel better. Almost like royalty. '''You gain XX HP'''.
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The pants start to go purple-ish but then settle on a deep blue. Something in the 430 nm range. It's a particularly smart shade, you think. No, not stylish smart--more like superintelligent.
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:Some of the smarts from the brainy blue pants wear off on you. How do you like that, you smarty pants, you? '''You gain XX XP'''.
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The dreampants shimmer and settle on a deep forest green. You're not quite sure how you know it's definitely forest green as opposed to the nearby "green pepper" or "green hornet", but you do. Maybe all these colors are giving you a more discerning eye?
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:[No post-combat message]
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Your dreampants flash red, and you can feel a blazing heat radiating from them. Thankfully the heat only radiates outward, not inward, so you're fine.
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:[No post-combat message; +10 fire (does this scale?) Possible +Fire resist or -Fire resist to monster?]
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Your dreampants settle on a bright orange, a color you only see on expensive sports cars and traffic cones.
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:[No post-combat message]
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[[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]]
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Seems to be two "effects" - precombat which is the color change, and post-combat which is a bonus of some type. ---- [[user:malk-a-mite|Malk]]<br>
 
Seems to be two "effects" - precombat which is the color change, and post-combat which is a bonus of some type. ---- [[user:malk-a-mite|Malk]]<br>
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Blue -> 1*level XP at the end of combat (caps at 10)<br>
 
Blue -> 1*level XP at the end of combat (caps at 10)<br>
 
Green -> hypothesized to be +items.<br>
 
Green -> hypothesized to be +items.<br>
Orange -> no idea.<br>
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Orange -> +initiative (racecar=speed)<br>
 
Red -> +10 fire damage throughout combat<br>
 
Red -> +10 fire damage throughout combat<br>
  
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There's a black? I haven't seen it yet. Did you grab the pre-combat message? - Satan
 
There's a black? I haven't seen it yet. Did you grab the pre-combat message? - Satan
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:Something about turning all stealthy.  I'll try to grab it the next time I see it. [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]]
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::I may be misremembering, but I'd swear that I was getting black yesterday, with the bonus XP message after combat. Today, nada. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 01:25, 3 April 2008 (MST)
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===Reference===
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"The description of this item may be a reference to the Jonathan Coulton song "Mr. Fancy Pants""  I'm pretty sure it's a reference to "Josef and the Amazing Technocolor Dream Coat", based on the Old Testament story of Josef, who was sold into slavery.  "Fancy pants" is used much more broadly than just a song.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]]
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: I agree. More than likely referencing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat]. That's what I thought of first, anyway.--[[User:Zelandoni|<font color="cornflowerblue">ζειαηđδηǐ</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Zelandoni|τ]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zelandoni|ϛ]])</small> 14:38, 2 April 2008 (MST)
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The yellow message is, of course, a reference to Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. Dick. [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]]
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: Yellow effect message is surely referencing The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe. [[User:Alhazred|Alhazred]] 16:42, 4 April 2008 (MST)
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At level 48, I'm getting +10 fire damage as well. I don't think it scales.
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Also, the blue message references the hyperintelligent shade of blue from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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Oh, sweet, it does. Anyways. I still haven't gotten the black message. Has anyone else seen it? - Satan
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==Some Data==
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Spent a few turns in the Delta:
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163 nonOrange / 138 init wins = 85% init win<br>
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42 Orange / 35 init wins = 83% init win<br>
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35 Green / 24 enerbun = 69% drop<br>
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Enerbun has a base drop rate of 50%
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If orange is initiative, I'm not seeing a big difference. Then again, the sample size is small and initiative is apparently high to begin with. But I'd say that green is definitely +item. I'll get 100 turns of green in to ballpark the figure...
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And some additional info:<br>
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98 total turns<br>
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22 Orange<br>
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17 Green<br>
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16 Purple<br>
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14 Red<br>
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16 Yellow<br>
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13 Blue
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I don't think there's any bias toward one color or another, but as long as I'm gathering data, I might as well make sure, right? --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 04:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
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:Forget that junk. All I really care about is the +item, and I can narrow that down more concretely just as easily.
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Green + 50% drop - 9/10<br>
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+70% - 5/6<br>
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+80% - 0/1<br>
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+85% - 13/14<br>
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+90% - 11/11
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So it's definitely less than 15%... --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 05:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:03, 19 April 2010

Activation Texts

Can someone post effects here, so I can decide whether to get them or not please:)Hero of the universe 14:03, 1 April 2008 (MST)

The pants turn an eerie electric yellow, the color of some sugary kids' drink, and your surroundings glow as if under blacklight. You realize this must be the precise color of sheep that androids dream about.

The electric yellow of the dreampants makes you feel more energetic. You gain XX PP. Having passed that acid test and provided you with some cool aid, they revert to their normal state.

Your dreampants shift until they're a nice, soothing purple. Or maybe it's a reddish blue. You're not quite sure.

The soothing purple of the dreampants makes you feel better. Almost like royalty. You gain XX HP.

The pants start to go purple-ish but then settle on a deep blue. Something in the 430 nm range. It's a particularly smart shade, you think. No, not stylish smart--more like superintelligent.

Some of the smarts from the brainy blue pants wear off on you. How do you like that, you smarty pants, you? You gain XX XP.

The dreampants shimmer and settle on a deep forest green. You're not quite sure how you know it's definitely forest green as opposed to the nearby "green pepper" or "green hornet", but you do. Maybe all these colors are giving you a more discerning eye?

[No post-combat message]

Your dreampants flash red, and you can feel a blazing heat radiating from them. Thankfully the heat only radiates outward, not inward, so you're fine.

[No post-combat message; +10 fire (does this scale?) Possible +Fire resist or -Fire resist to monster?]

Your dreampants settle on a bright orange, a color you only see on expensive sports cars and traffic cones.

[No post-combat message]

Cristiona


Seems to be two "effects" - precombat which is the color change, and post-combat which is a bonus of some type. ---- Malk
Keep in mind this is on a level 1 character with 1 HP and 1 PP.
The electric yellow of the dreampants makes you feel more energetic. You gain 1 PP. Having passed that acid test and provided you with some cool aid, they revert to their normal state.
The soothing purple of the dreampants makes you feel better. Almost like royalty. You gain 2 HP.
Your dreampants settle on a bright yellow, a color you only see on expensive sports cars.
The dreampants shimmer and settle on a deep forest green. You're not quite sure how you know it's definitely forest green as opposed to the nearby "green pepper" or "green hornet", but you do. Maybe all these colors are giving you a more discerning eye?
Your dreampants flash red, and you can feel a blazing heat radiating from them. Thankfully the heat only radiates outward, not inward, so you're fine.

I get 30 health per heal and 15 per re-energation.
When red, the pants gave me +10 hot damage.
From the text I assume the green give +item drops and the yellow will give +chips, but I will let someone more spadey confirm that.
*Note- These observations were from a level 41 gadgeteer.--Durodan 15:52, 1 April 2008 (MST)

Except that the PP regen specifically mentions Yellow. Also, it seemed that I got post-combat yellow about three turns after pre-combat yellow. Cristiona
Right, upon closer inspection yellow is PP regen, and orange is the sports car message--Durodan 19:57, 1 April 2008 (MST)

I'll stick a note in that I got 30 HP from a shot of these pants as a level 25 Psion. --MN (#228) (T|C) 16:24, 1 April 2008 (MST)

Alright. Here we go!

Purple -> 2*level HP at the end of combat (caps at 30)
Yellow -> 1*level PP at the end of combat (caps at 15)
Blue -> 1*level XP at the end of combat (caps at 10)
Green -> hypothesized to be +items.
Orange -> +initiative (racecar=speed)
Red -> +10 fire damage throughout combat

Don't think I've missed any colors besides green and orange being unspaded.

--MN (#228) (T|C) 21:43, 1 April 2008 (MST)

Black. It may be +init (which would be nearly impossible to spade). Orange might be +chips. Cristiona

There's a black? I haven't seen it yet. Did you grab the pre-combat message? - Satan

Something about turning all stealthy. I'll try to grab it the next time I see it. Cristiona
I may be misremembering, but I'd swear that I was getting black yesterday, with the bonus XP message after combat. Today, nada. --Jesus 01:25, 3 April 2008 (MST)


Reference

"The description of this item may be a reference to the Jonathan Coulton song "Mr. Fancy Pants"" I'm pretty sure it's a reference to "Josef and the Amazing Technocolor Dream Coat", based on the Old Testament story of Josef, who was sold into slavery. "Fancy pants" is used much more broadly than just a song. Cristiona

I agree. More than likely referencing Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. That's what I thought of first, anyway.--ζειαηđδηǐ (τ|ϛ) 14:38, 2 April 2008 (MST)

The yellow message is, of course, a reference to Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. Dick. Cristiona

Yellow effect message is surely referencing The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe. Alhazred 16:42, 4 April 2008 (MST)

At level 48, I'm getting +10 fire damage as well. I don't think it scales.

Also, the blue message references the hyperintelligent shade of blue from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Oh, sweet, it does. Anyways. I still haven't gotten the black message. Has anyone else seen it? - Satan

Some Data

Spent a few turns in the Delta:

163 nonOrange / 138 init wins = 85% init win
42 Orange / 35 init wins = 83% init win
35 Green / 24 enerbun = 69% drop
Enerbun has a base drop rate of 50%

If orange is initiative, I'm not seeing a big difference. Then again, the sample size is small and initiative is apparently high to begin with. But I'd say that green is definitely +item. I'll get 100 turns of green in to ballpark the figure...

And some additional info:
98 total turns
22 Orange
17 Green
16 Purple
14 Red
16 Yellow
13 Blue

I don't think there's any bias toward one color or another, but as long as I'm gathering data, I might as well make sure, right? --Jesus 04:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Forget that junk. All I really care about is the +item, and I can narrow that down more concretely just as easily.

Green + 50% drop - 9/10
+70% - 5/6
+80% - 0/1
+85% - 13/14
+90% - 11/11

So it's definitely less than 15%... --Jesus 05:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)