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'''Furnace of Yeb'''<br>
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'''Furnace of Yeb''' (+50% weapon damage, +50 fire damage, +10% of weapon damage returned as HP)<br>
 
2 glasses of Leng<br>
 
2 glasses of Leng<br>
 
1 milk of Shupnikkurat<br>
 
1 milk of Shupnikkurat<br>
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50,000 chips<br>
 
50,000 chips<br>
 
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'''Pallid Mask'''<br>
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'''Pallid Mask''' (Allows soul gazing., +10 XP per combat, +20% Strength, +20% Intellect, +20% Reflexes)<br>
 
2 glasses of Leng<br>
 
2 glasses of Leng<br>
 
1 milk of Shupnikkurat<br>
 
1 milk of Shupnikkurat<br>
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There's also a Torch of Nug, but in my excitement I didn't record it and instead bought it. And this isn't all of them, I think. It's hard to say still. --[[User:MagiNinjA|<font color=#701337><b>MN (#228)</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:MagiNinjA|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/MagiNinjA|C]])</small> 05:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 
There's also a Torch of Nug, but in my excitement I didn't record it and instead bought it. And this isn't all of them, I think. It's hard to say still. --[[User:MagiNinjA|<font color=#701337><b>MN (#228)</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:MagiNinjA|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/MagiNinjA|C]])</small> 05:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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:Furnace of Yeb doesn't have 10% HP sap, that's Torch of Nug. Furnace is the ranged 'copy' with +5 ranged attacks. - Satan
  
 
'''Trident of Nodens''' (ranged, +attacks, PP%/HP% leech, assorted elemental)<br>
 
'''Trident of Nodens''' (ranged, +attacks, PP%/HP% leech, assorted elemental)<br>
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More stuff; less straight-up powerful, but it fills the other equipment slots quite nicely, along with offering a less brute-force approach to things. I've also come into possession of a Shining Trapezohedron (accessory, +noncombats, +10HP/turn, +~3 new sidekick summons per day), though I didn't bother recording the recipe for that. --[[User:JazzTap|JazzTap]] 06:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 
More stuff; less straight-up powerful, but it fills the other equipment slots quite nicely, along with offering a less brute-force approach to things. I've also come into possession of a Shining Trapezohedron (accessory, +noncombats, +10HP/turn, +~3 new sidekick summons per day), though I didn't bother recording the recipe for that. --[[User:JazzTap|JazzTap]] 06:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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If someone has a level 29 character, please don't level up, because after acquiring the dreamer's clock, the old man refuses to see you until you level up. I forgot to save the text so someone else needs to get it. -PKProStudio
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="54" | Glasses of Leng
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="46" | Horrid Tentacles
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="53" | Lemurian Fragments
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="67" | Vials of Milk of Shupnikkurat
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="42" | Nathian Sphere Shards
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="52" | Poisonous Hides
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="46" | Seeds of Azathoth
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="56" | Shan Carapace
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="55" | Squamous Leathers
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="67" | Strange Fungi
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="67" | Samples of the Black
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="67" | Pieces Tok'l Ore
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|style="text-decoration:underline" width="46" | Chips
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Misericorde of the Squid
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 30000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Trident of Nodens
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 30000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Crystallizer of Dreams
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 30000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Vambraces of the Star Spawn
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 30000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Robe of Summanus
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 30000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Scourge of Souls
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 2
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| 40000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | N'Gah-Kthun's Lancer
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| 4
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| 40000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Polar Star
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 4
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 40000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Treader of the Dust's Sandals
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 2
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| 3
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| 1
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 40000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Shining Trapezohedron
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|style="text-decoration:none" | &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| 40000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Torch of Nug
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|style="text-decoration:none" | 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| 50000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Furnace of Yeb
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|style="text-decoration:none" | 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| 50000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Mirror of Nitocris
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|style="text-decoration:none" | 4
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 50000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Pallid Mask
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|style="text-decoration:none" | 2
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 5
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| &nbsp;
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| 2
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| &nbsp;
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| 50000
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|-  valign="bottom"
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|style="text-decoration:underline" height="13" | Ring of Solis
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|style="text-decoration:none" | 3
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| 3
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| &nbsp;
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| 1
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| &nbsp;
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| 50000
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 12
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 4
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 6
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 5
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 8
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 4
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 26
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 7
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 16
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 6
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 12
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 7
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|style="font-weight:bold" | 600000
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Is this table useful to anyone?
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--[[User:neocamp22|neocamp22]]
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:It's great to me. Now I know what to farm and for how long. Would've done something similar for myself, but not this nice. Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Alarion|Alarion]] 22:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Resemblance to KoL's Crackpot Mystic's Shed ==
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I've moved the suggested reference here so it could be discussed:
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* The message you obtain when the Creepy Old Man cannot produce anything from your artifacts is possibly also a reference to the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Crackpot_Mystic%27s_Shed Kingdom of Loathing], given that it resembles the message you get when visiting the Crackpot Mystic without a combination of pixels which he can use to "pixel-craft" items.
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* Strangely but expectedly, the Creepy Old House appears to be analogous to the Crackpot Mystic's Shed in the [http://kol.coldfront.net Kingdom of Loathing]. It can also be said that the quest by which you gain access to the House could have been inspired by the 8-bit realm in the same game, given the mechanics involved (and the storyline, but only just).
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The messages resemblance might as well be coincidental. The Mystic says "Alas, I cannot make anything with the Pixels you have thus far collected." compared to "Alas, I can not make anything from what ye possess."
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I don't really see the resemblance in mechanics or storyline. Mechanics wise, this is the same mechanic as the [[Wade-bot Base]], it has nothing to do with the 8-bit realm. Storywise I see no resemblance at all. The only resemblance I do see is that these are guys that live in houses. So what?
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If you want to restore the references please justify it here first. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 08:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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[[User:SunWukong|SunWukong]] 09:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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Well, let's see.
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* firstly we all know that Ryme was influenced by KoL. This game carries a strong influence over from KoL.
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* secondly, both the Creepy Old Man and the Crackpot Mystic appear to serve the same function:
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The statements by the old man were not inspired by pixel crafting.  I suppose it's possible that I was unconsciously influenced, but while I was creating the layout, I continually drew comparisons to Crimbo Town, but only because you couldn't see the full list unless you had enough parts.  The old man '''is''' a reference to something, but not something from KoL.  [[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] 09:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Bug fix validation ==
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I am not sure what is proper transportation - with proper range or the clock. But I can get here with any vehicle --[[User:Shikao|Shikao]] 23:50, 30 January 2011 (PST)
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: Then you should probably find where in the forums Ryme said it was fixed and let him know it wasn't. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 07:47, 31 January 2011 (PST)

Latest revision as of 07:47, 31 January 2011

Furnace of Yeb (+50% weapon damage, +50 fire damage, +10% of weapon damage returned as HP)
2 glasses of Leng
1 milk of Shupnikkurat
1 Nathian sphere shard
3 seeds of Azathoth
1 squamous leather
2 samples of The Black
50,000 chips

Mirror of Nitocris
4 glasses of Leng
2 vials of milk of Shupnikkurat
3 Nathian sphere shards
1 seed of Azathoth
50,000 chips

Pallid Mask (Allows soul gazing., +10 XP per combat, +20% Strength, +20% Intellect, +20% Reflexes)
2 glasses of Leng
1 milk of Shupnikkurat
5 squamous leathers
2 samples of The Black
50,000 chips

Ring of Solis
3 glasses of Leng
3 Nathian sphere shards
3 seeds of Azathoth
1 The Black
50,000 chips

There's also a Torch of Nug, but in my excitement I didn't record it and instead bought it. And this isn't all of them, I think. It's hard to say still. --MN (#228) (T|C) 05:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Furnace of Yeb doesn't have 10% HP sap, that's Torch of Nug. Furnace is the ranged 'copy' with +5 ranged attacks. - Satan

Trident of Nodens (ranged, +attacks, PP%/HP% leech, assorted elemental)
2 Lemurian fragments
1 poisonous hide
1 seed of Azathoth
1 The Black
30,000 chips

Crystallizer of Dreams (offhand, +%physical resist, +spell damage, +%init)
3 Lemurian fragments
2 seeds of Azathoth
30,000 chips

Vambraces of the Star Spawn (gloves, -toughness, 10 damage to attacker, -fumble chance)
2 poisonous hides
1 horrid tentacle
2 squamous leathers
30,000 chips

Robe of Summanus (full body, +noncombats, +criticals, +%ele resist, +reputation modifiers)
1 Lemurian fragment
1 poisonous hide
1 seed of Azathoth
2 squamous leathers
30,000 chips

More stuff; less straight-up powerful, but it fills the other equipment slots quite nicely, along with offering a less brute-force approach to things. I've also come into possession of a Shining Trapezohedron (accessory, +noncombats, +10HP/turn, +~3 new sidekick summons per day), though I didn't bother recording the recipe for that. --JazzTap 06:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

If someone has a level 29 character, please don't level up, because after acquiring the dreamer's clock, the old man refuses to see you until you level up. I forgot to save the text so someone else needs to get it. -PKProStudio

  Glasses of Leng Horrid Tentacles Lemurian Fragments Vials of Milk of Shupnikkurat Nathian Sphere Shards Poisonous Hides Seeds of Azathoth Shan Carapace Squamous Leathers Strange Fungi Samples of the Black Pieces Tok'l Ore Chips
Misericorde of the Squid   3         1       1   30000
Trident of Nodens     2     1 1       1   30000
Crystallizer of Dreams     3       2           30000
Vambraces of the Star Spawn   1       2     2       30000
Robe of Summanus     1     1 1   2       30000
Scourge of Souls             1 2 3   1 1 40000
N'Gah-Kthun's Lancer             2     1 1 4 40000
Polar Star             4 2   2     40000
Treader of the Dust's Sandals             1 2 3 1 1   40000
Shining Trapezohedron             3 1   2   2 40000
Torch of Nug 1     1 1   3   1   2   50000
Furnace of Yeb 2     1 1   3       2   50000
Mirror of Nitocris 4     2 3   1           50000
Pallid Mask 2     1         5   2   50000
Ring of Solis 3       3   3       1   50000
  12 4 6 5 8 4 26 7 16 6 12 7 600000

Is this table useful to anyone? --neocamp22

It's great to me. Now I know what to farm and for how long. Would've done something similar for myself, but not this nice. Thanks a bunch. --Alarion 22:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Resemblance to KoL's Crackpot Mystic's Shed

I've moved the suggested reference here so it could be discussed:

  • The message you obtain when the Creepy Old Man cannot produce anything from your artifacts is possibly also a reference to the Kingdom of Loathing, given that it resembles the message you get when visiting the Crackpot Mystic without a combination of pixels which he can use to "pixel-craft" items.
  • Strangely but expectedly, the Creepy Old House appears to be analogous to the Crackpot Mystic's Shed in the Kingdom of Loathing. It can also be said that the quest by which you gain access to the House could have been inspired by the 8-bit realm in the same game, given the mechanics involved (and the storyline, but only just).

The messages resemblance might as well be coincidental. The Mystic says "Alas, I cannot make anything with the Pixels you have thus far collected." compared to "Alas, I can not make anything from what ye possess."

I don't really see the resemblance in mechanics or storyline. Mechanics wise, this is the same mechanic as the Wade-bot Base, it has nothing to do with the 8-bit realm. Storywise I see no resemblance at all. The only resemblance I do see is that these are guys that live in houses. So what?

If you want to restore the references please justify it here first. --Muhandes 08:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC) SunWukong 09:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC) Well, let's see.

  • firstly we all know that Ryme was influenced by KoL. This game carries a strong influence over from KoL.
  • secondly, both the Creepy Old Man and the Crackpot Mystic appear to serve the same function:

The statements by the old man were not inspired by pixel crafting. I suppose it's possible that I was unconsciously influenced, but while I was creating the layout, I continually drew comparisons to Crimbo Town, but only because you couldn't see the full list unless you had enough parts. The old man is a reference to something, but not something from KoL. Cristiona 09:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Bug fix validation

I am not sure what is proper transportation - with proper range or the clock. But I can get here with any vehicle --Shikao 23:50, 30 January 2011 (PST)

Then you should probably find where in the forums Ryme said it was fixed and let him know it wasn't. --Muhandes 07:47, 31 January 2011 (PST)
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