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[[banned book]] is a new drop for this BotB, maybe a note should be made to that effect? --[[User:Hari Seldon|Hari Seldon]] 17:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 
[[banned book]] is a new drop for this BotB, maybe a note should be made to that effect? --[[User:Hari Seldon|Hari Seldon]] 17:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 
: agreed --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 
: agreed --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
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== Drops spading ==
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I'm assuming all the bands have the same drop rate for all the items.  I listed only the effects and equipment that show they affect item drops.  For the first four alts, I collected data every battle.  For the next four, I just ran through all my turns, subtracted the number of Villain items from the turns spent (I cleared out my inventory of Villain items first), and looked at my inventory for the number of band items (yes, those were cleared out too).  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 18:18, 29 January 2011 (PST)
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{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1 align=center style=text-align:center
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|- style="background-color:#EFEFEF"
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! level
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! class
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! +item drop
 +
! fights
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! band-aid
 +
! bandana
 +
! bandolier
 +
! bandwagon
 +
! banned book
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|-
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| 50 || G || +56% + Flea market trader || 156 || 38 || 46 || 43 || 4 || 9
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|-
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| 40 || P || +31% + Flea market trader || 156 || 36 || 34 || 36 || 3 || 6
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|-
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| 24 || N || +41% + Flea market trader*1.20 || 157 || 28 || 42 || 40 || 11 || 10
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|-
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| 50 || E || +44% + Flea market trader || 157 || 36 || 35 || 38 || 5 || 7
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|-
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| 70 || N || +38% || 196 || 49 || 41 || 39 || 10 || 9
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|-
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| 70 || G || +43% || 197 || 38 || 35 || 49 || 13 || 12
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|-
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| 70 || E || +33% || 196 || 44 || 39 || 57 || 12 || 7
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|-
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| 70 || P || +56% || 197 || 33 || 36 || 33 || 7 || 4
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|-
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|}
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(if the data under the summary table makes this page too cluttered, feel free to remove it)
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-----
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hoy (#27594) - Level 50 Gadgeteer
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 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
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|-
 +
| shortbow of the stick || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| harness || +2%
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| discount pants || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| flashlight || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| binoculars || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Metal Detector (10) || +25%
 +
|-
 +
| Flea market trader || +?
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+56% +(flea market trader)'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 +
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
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    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
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    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
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    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
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    bandwagon ||||
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    banned book ||||/||||
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      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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-----
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hoyi (#30388) - Level 40 Psion
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
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|-
 +
| short end of the stick || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| harness || +2%
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| discount pants || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| flashlight || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| binoculars || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Flea market trader || +?
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+31% +(flea market trader)'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 +
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
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    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
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    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||
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    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
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    bandwagon |||
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    banned book ||||/|
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    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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-----
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hoyif (#32867) - Level 24 Naturalist Hero
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
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|-
 +
| short end of the stick || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| harness || +2%
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| discount pants || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| binoculars || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| Echolocation (10) || +20%
 +
|-
 +
| Nature vs. Nurture (10) || sidekick +20%
 +
|-
 +
| Flea market trader || +?
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+41% +((flea market trader)*1.20)'''
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|-
 +
|}
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 +
      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
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    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
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    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||
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    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
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    bandwagon ||||/||||/|
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    banned book ||||/||||/
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    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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-----
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hoyifung (#29885) - Level 50 Elemental
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
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|-
 +
| short end of the stick || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| discount pants || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| flashlight || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| binoculars || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Metal Detector (0) || +15%
 +
|-
 +
| Flea market trader || +?
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+44% +(flea market trader)'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
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    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
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    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
 +
    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
 +
    bandwagon ||||/
 +
    banned book ||||/||
 +
    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
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-----
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hoyifung02 (#25613) - Level 70 Naturalist
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| isotope meter || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Echolocation (10) || +20%
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+38%'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
  Turns spent 202
 +
  Villain items 6
 +
  bands fought 196
 +
  band-aid 49
 +
  bandana 41
 +
  bandolier 39
 +
  bandwagon 10
 +
  banned book 9
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 +
-----
 +
hoyifung03 (#23598) - Level 70 Gadgeteer
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| isotope meter || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Metal Detector (10) || +25%
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+43%'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
  Turns spent 202
 +
  Villain items 5
 +
  bands fought 197
 +
  band-aid 38
 +
  bandana 35
 +
  bandolier 49
 +
  bandwagon 13
 +
  banned book 12
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 +
-----
 +
hoyifung04 (#1632) - Level 70 Elemental
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| isotope meter || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| Metal Detector (0) || +15%
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+33%'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
  Turns spent 202
 +
  Villain items 6
 +
  bands fought 196
 +
  band-aid 44
 +
  bandana 39
 +
  bandolier 57
 +
  bandwagon 12
 +
  banned book 7
 +
 +
-----
 +
hoyifung05 (#12661) - Level 70 Psion
 +
 +
{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
 +
|-
 +
| sticky gloves || +3%
 +
|-
 +
| isotope meter || +10%
 +
|-
 +
| phial of Samuels || +5%
 +
|-
 +
| '''Total''' || '''+18%'''
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
  Turns spent 202
 +
  Villain items 5
 +
  bands fought 197
 +
  band-aid 33
 +
  bandana 36
 +
  bandolier 33
 +
  bandwagon 7
 +
  banned book 4

Revision as of 18:18, 29 January 2011

Drops I confirmed:

Foe band-aid bandana bandolier bandwagon banned book
22.86 cm Screws x x x x
404 State x x x x x
Ahab x x x
Aristocrats of Base x x x x x
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto) x x x x x
Buck Cherry x x x
Cement Brunette x x x x
De la Sole x x x
Dick's 12-Step Recovery Program x x x x x
Edgar Allen x x x x x
Electric Current x x x x
Electrolyte Orchestra x x x x x
Los Ramónes x x x x x
Peter Pollen Mary x x x x
Refresh Mode x x x x x
Royals and the Tannenbaum x x x x
Samsara x x x x
Televisiontail x x x x x
The Beatless x x x x x
The Best Offense x x x
The Strolling Rones x x x x
The Undecided x x x
The Windows x x x x x
Vain Helen x x x x
Velour Skyscraper x x x


I'm going to assume they all drop everything, and we can verify next occurrences.
I didn't note specific chip drops, but over all I saw 14-31. Again I'm going to assume it is the same and we can verify next occurrences. --Muhandes 08:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated --Muhandes 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Differences between this and last time

While it might be worth recording for historical reference, I just want everyone to be aware that all of the most recent bands were supposed to be around last time too; Ryme just goofed the code so only 6 or so actually showed up. So it's not so much that more bands were added as we finally got the full even the second time around. Just wanted to get the history down somewhere before we all forget. Not sure how to work it into the page, though. Cristiona

The fact remains that on the previous time we had only 5 bands and this this time we had more. This is what the page says by dividing them into two groups. If you think the reason for this is important, it can be added as a note.--Muhandes 08:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Data

Band (125) -- 22 band-aid / 21 bandana / 23 bandolier / 5 bandwagon / 3 banned book

Assuming everything drops everything at the same rate. ~16.8-18.4% for the first three items (which probably have the same actual rate), 4% for the bandwagon, and 2.4% for the book. Also, I got a range of 17-36 chips today, which adjusting for Winsday means 12-31. --Jesus 10:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if this should be added to each individual page, or just to add a note to the Battle page. Or even if such a small sample is worth including anywhere.

banned book is a new drop for this BotB, maybe a note should be made to that effect? --Hari Seldon 17:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

agreed --Muhandes 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Drops spading

I'm assuming all the bands have the same drop rate for all the items. I listed only the effects and equipment that show they affect item drops. For the first four alts, I collected data every battle. For the next four, I just ran through all my turns, subtracted the number of Villain items from the turns spent (I cleared out my inventory of Villain items first), and looked at my inventory for the number of band items (yes, those were cleared out too). --hoyifung04 18:18, 29 January 2011 (PST)

level class +item drop fights band-aid bandana bandolier bandwagon banned book
50 G +56% + Flea market trader 156 38 46 43 4 9
40 P +31% + Flea market trader 156 36 34 36 3 6
24 N +41% + Flea market trader*1.20 157 28 42 40 11 10
50 E +44% + Flea market trader 157 36 35 38 5 7
70 N +38% 196 49 41 39 10 9
70 G +43% 197 38 35 49 13 12
70 E +33% 196 44 39 57 12 7
70 P +56% 197 33 36 33 7 4

(if the data under the summary table makes this page too cluttered, feel free to remove it)


hoy (#27594) - Level 50 Gadgeteer

shortbow of the stick +3%
harness +2%
sticky gloves +3%
discount pants +3%
flashlight +5%
binoculars +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Metal Detector (10) +25%
Flea market trader +?
Total +56% +(flea market trader)
 		    5   10   15   20   25   30   35   40   45   50   55   60   65   70   75   80   85   90   95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 band		||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
   band-aid	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
   bandana	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
   bandolier	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
   bandwagon	||||
   banned book	||||/||||
 		    5   10   15   20   25   30   35   40   45   50   55   60   65   70   75   80   85   90   95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160

hoyi (#30388) - Level 40 Psion

short end of the stick +3%
harness +2%
sticky gloves +3%
discount pants +3%
flashlight +5%
binoculars +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Flea market trader +?
Total +31% +(flea market trader)
 		    5   10   15   20   25   30   35   40   45   50   55   60   65   70   75   80   85   90   95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 band		||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
   band-aid	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
   bandana	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||
   bandolier	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
   bandwagon	|||
   banned book	||||/|

5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 100 105 110 115 120 125 130 135 140 145 150 155 160


hoyif (#32867) - Level 24 Naturalist Hero

short end of the stick +3%
harness +2%
sticky gloves +3%
discount pants +3%
binoculars +10%
Echolocation (10) +20%
Nature vs. Nurture (10) sidekick +20%
Flea market trader +?
Total +41% +((flea market trader)*1.20)
 		    5   10   15   20   25   30   35   40   45   50   55   60   65   70   75   80   85   90   95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 band		||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
   band-aid	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
   bandana	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||
   bandolier	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
   bandwagon	||||/||||/|
   banned book	||||/||||/

5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 100 105 110 115 120 125 130 135 140 145 150 155 160


hoyifung (#29885) - Level 50 Elemental

short end of the stick +3%
sticky gloves +3%
discount pants +3%
flashlight +5%
binoculars +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Metal Detector (0) +15%
Flea market trader +?
Total +44% +(flea market trader)
 		    5   10   15   20   25   30   35   40   45   50   55   60   65   70   75   80   85   90   95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
 band		||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
   band-aid	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
   bandana	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
   bandolier	||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
   bandwagon	||||/
   banned book	||||/||

5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 100 105 110 115 120 125 130 135 140 145 150 155 160


hoyifung02 (#25613) - Level 70 Naturalist

sticky gloves +3%
isotope meter +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Echolocation (10) +20%
Total +38%
 Turns spent	202
 Villain items	6
 bands fought	196
 band-aid	49
 bandana	41
 bandolier	39
 bandwagon	10
 banned book	9
 

hoyifung03 (#23598) - Level 70 Gadgeteer

sticky gloves +3%
isotope meter +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Metal Detector (10) +25%
Total +43%
 Turns spent	202
 Villain items	5
 bands fought	197
 band-aid	38
 bandana	35
 bandolier	49
 bandwagon	13
 banned book	12

hoyifung04 (#1632) - Level 70 Elemental

sticky gloves +3%
isotope meter +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Metal Detector (0) +15%
Total +33%
 Turns spent	202
 Villain items	6
 bands fought	196
 band-aid	44
 bandana	39
 bandolier	57
 bandwagon	12
 banned book	7

hoyifung05 (#12661) - Level 70 Psion

sticky gloves +3%
isotope meter +10%
phial of Samuels +5%
Total +18%
 Turns spent	202
 Villain items	5
 bands fought	197
 band-aid	33
 bandana	36
 bandolier	33
 bandwagon	7
 banned book	4