Talk:Zion's Tears demiurge

I noticed she had an acid attack. 57 (48) reflexes and it hit me for I 10 (+ 2 I think). Unfortunately killed me. Gave the Internal Injuries effect too.. --Antoids 22:04, 19 February 2008 (MST)

So, how do you make it appear faster? --TeKRunneR 22:48, 23 November 2010 (PST)

So very simple. You'd kick yourself for not thinking of it. Cristiona

:Are you using the trick Cris? --Blackmatter615 07:35, 24 November 2010 (PST)

: :I asked Crist this BM, she said 'not quite'. Dunno what that means :P --Strlikecrazy

I used the trick on my two 3 day runs. Cristiona

Tried the alternative path on a multi, it seemed very very quick - i'll have to spade! --Strlikecrazy 09:20, 26 November 2010 (PST)

Hm, does it involve adventuring on the rooftops maybe? Inquiring minds want to know D: --TeKRunneR 08:04, 27 November 2010 (PST)

Why would it involve the rooftops? Cristiona

I had two ideas on how this could be made faster: either using +FT or using lassoes to fight more 'higher ranking'foes - the matarkhis and archons are 'officers', while the lokhar is a mere foot soldier. However, it looks like t archon cannot be lassoed, although the matarkhis can so...Worth testing I think. Alternatively, one could try to fight more archons using smoke bombs, or the 'trick' you mention(the red-eye one I assume) Edivad 02:58, 30 November 2010 (PST)

I truly hope this isn't like the mob instigator thing, where you have to fight N archons before it appears. Major RNG screwage potential. Though that would be the obvious thing, with the mob not voodooable. --Muhandes 04:30, 30 November 2010 (PST)

I tried red-eye on everything but archons, demi appeared after 4 archons. Needs more spading of course. --Muhandes 01:40, 3 December 2010 (PST)

I am bit sleepy, but I counted only 3 archons before demi --Shikao 13:30, 3 December 2010 (PST)

Demi showed after 5 archons, 9 matarkhises, 14 lokhars and 1 Ali C - counting after A Familiar Figure --Shikao 07:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)

Huh. My Zion tears building just went: first noncom, ~5 combats (no archon), 2nd noncom, 4 archons in a row, then demiurge. I don't know if that was pure luck, but I don't think I did anything very different from the usual.

4L and 2M before Familiar Figure, after: 5L 1M 4A 1The Slime --Shikao 13:08, 5 December 2010 (PST)

Familiar Figure right away, then: 5M 11L 5A 1Mister Uh-Uh --Shikao 13:53, 7 December 2010 (PST)

That wasn't good day for fighting Demiurge... Familiar Figure right away, then: 12M 11(+1 who beat me)L 3A 1Sdrawkcab Xam - I lost with Demiurge - 3L 5M 1A - Demiurge won again - 1M - I finally beat her! --Shikao 00:42, 9 December 2010 (PST)

RNG ultra-hate run: 2M 6A 5L --Shikao 07:45, 11 December 2010 (PST)

That was strangely fast: 3A in row, 1L and 2M --Shikao 08:45, 12 December 2010 (PST)

SO I theorize that the number of archosn defeated affects the encounter rate for the demiurge. Simple way to test it is to defeat X archons then adventure for 200 (to minimize RNG screw) turns, running away from any subsequent archons. Tried this after 3 archons, and I fought the demiurge after a little bit. Will try again with 2 sometime soon. --Blackmatter615 10:39, 25 February 2011 (PST)

After losing count on how many archosn fought on an alt, I decided to test this theory the other way. So I fought 40+ archons, and now, 1:4 combats is not the demiurge. She is constantly showing up. I keep running away to keep testing going. --Blackmatter615 11:31, 25 February 2011 (PST)