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== Drops spading ==
== Drops spading ==
Removed old data with item drop modifiers.  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04|talk]]) 20:28, 9 April 2014 (PDT)


I'm assuming all the bands have the same drop rate for all the items.  I listed only the effects and equipment that show they affect item drops.  For the first four alts, I collected data every battle.  For the next four, I just ran through all my turns, subtracted the number of Villain items from the turns spent (I cleared out my inventory of Villain items first), and looked at my inventory for the number of band items (yes, those were cleared out too).  --[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] 18:18, 29 January 2011 (PST)
----
 
Patojonas, Reigna, Feathergod, Okarin and Aewyre, with out powers combined, we are Volt- err, Super Spading Squad! ( or Triple S for short :P)
 
Jokes aside, from a total of 910 fights across all the above alts, assuming they're all the same I got (also, correct order of drops):
* 155 band-aids - {{statrate|910|155|+}}%
* 131 bandanas - {{statrate|910|131|+}}%
* 156 bandoliers - {{statrate|910|156|+}}%
* 27 bandwagons - {{statrate|910|27|+}}%
* 25 banned books - {{statrate|910|25|+}}%
 
Also, I verified there are no resistance or weakness, just as before [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 07:40, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
 
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Data for 9 April 2014
* band-aid {{statrate|1618|233}}
* bandana {{statrate|1618|225}}
* bandolier {{statrate|1618|267}}
* bandwagon {{statrate|1618|49}}
* banned book {{statrate|1618|39}}
--[[User:Hoyifung04|hoyifung04]] ([[User talk:Hoyifung04|talk]]) 20:28, 9 April 2014 (PDT)
 
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<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:320px">
Big Ole Data Dump April 2014
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
22.86 cm Screws|band-aid {{statrate|21|3|+}}
 
22.86 cm Screws|bandana {{statrate|21|3|+}}
 
22.86 cm Screws|bandolier {{statrate|21|1|+}}
 
22.86 cm Screws|banned book {{statrate|21|1|+}}
 
404 State|band-aid {{statrate|31|5|+}}
 
404 State|bandana {{statrate|31|7|+}}


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1 align=center style=text-align:center
404 State|bandolier {{statrate|31|2|+}}
|- style="background-color:#EFEFEF"
! level
! class
! +item drop
! fights
! band-aid
! bandana
! bandolier
! bandwagon
! banned book
|-
| 50 || G || +56% + Flea market trader || 156 || 38 || 46 || 43 || 4 || 9
|-
| 40 || P || +31% + Flea market trader || 156 || 36 || 34 || 36 || 3 || 6
|-
| 24 || N || +41% + Flea market trader*1.20 || 157 || 28 || 42 || 40 || 11 || 10
|-
| 50 || E || +44% + Flea market trader || 157 || 36 || 35 || 38 || 5 || 7
|-
| 70 || N || +38% || 196 || 49 || 41 || 39 || 10 || 9
|-
| 70 || G || +43% || 197 || 38 || 35 || 49 || 13 || 12
|-
| 70 || E || +33% || 196 || 44 || 39 || 57 || 12 || 7
|-
| 70 || P || +56% || 197 || 33 || 36 || 33 || 7 || 4
|-
|}


(if the data under the summary table makes this page too cluttered, feel free to remove it)
404 State|bandwagon {{statrate|31|1|+}}
-----
hoy (#27594) - Level 50 Gadgeteer


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
Ahab|band-aid {{statrate|23|1|+}}
|-
| shortbow of the stick || +3%
|-
| harness || +2%
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| discount pants || +3%
|-
| flashlight || +5%
|-
| binoculars || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Metal Detector (10) || +25%
|-
| Flea market trader || +?
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+56% +(flea market trader)'''
|-
|}


      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
Ahab|bandana {{statrate|23|4|+}}
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
    bandwagon ||||
    banned book ||||/||||
      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
-----
hoyi (#30388) - Level 40 Psion


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
Ahab|bandolier {{statrate|23|3|+}}
|-
| short end of the stick || +3%
|-
| harness || +2%
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| discount pants || +3%
|-
| flashlight || +5%
|-
| binoculars || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Flea market trader || +?
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+31% +(flea market trader)'''
|-
|}


      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
Aristocrats of Base|band-aid {{statrate|22|3|+}}
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/|
    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||
    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
    bandwagon |||
    banned book ||||/|
    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
-----
hoyif (#32867) - Level 24 Naturalist Hero


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
Aristocrats of Base|bandana {{statrate|22|2|+}}
|-
| short end of the stick || +3%
|-
| harness || +2%
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| discount pants || +3%
|-
| binoculars || +10%
|-
| Echolocation (10) || +20%
|-
| Nature vs. Nurture (10) || sidekick +20%
|-
| Flea market trader || +?
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+41% +((flea market trader)*1.20)'''
|-
|}


      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
Aristocrats of Base|bandolier {{statrate|22|2|+}}
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||
    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
    bandwagon ||||/||||/|
    banned book ||||/||||/
    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
-----
hoyifung (#29885) - Level 50 Elemental


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto)|band-aid {{statrate|32|5|+}}
|-
| short end of the stick || +3%
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| discount pants || +3%
|-
| flashlight || +5%
|-
| binoculars || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Metal Detector (0) || +15%
|-
| Flea market trader || +?
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+44% +(flea market trader)'''
|-
|}


      5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto)|bandana {{statrate|32|6|+}}
  band ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||+||||/||
    band-aid ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|
    bandana ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/
    bandolier ||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/||||/|||
    bandwagon ||||/
    banned book ||||/||
    5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100  105  110  115  120  125  130  135  140  145  150  155  160
-----
hoyifung02 (#25613) - Level 70 Naturalist


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto)|bandolier {{statrate|32|4|+}}
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| isotope meter || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Echolocation (10) || +20%
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+38%'''
|-
|}


  Turns spent 202
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto)|bandwagon {{statrate|32|1|+}}
  Villain items 6
  bands fought 196
  band-aid 49
  bandana 41
  bandolier 39
  bandwagon 10
  banned book 9
 
-----
hoyifung03 (#23598) - Level 70 Gadgeteer


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto)|banned book {{statrate|32|1|+}}
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| isotope meter || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Metal Detector (10) || +25%
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+43%'''
|-
|}


  Turns spent 202
Buck Cherry|band-aid {{statrate|20|4|+}}
  Villain items 5
  bands fought 197
  band-aid 38
  bandana 35
  bandolier 49
  bandwagon 13
  banned book 12


-----
Buck Cherry|bandana {{statrate|20|3|+}}
hoyifung04 (#1632) - Level 70 Elemental


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
Buck Cherry|bandolier {{statrate|20|5|+}}
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| isotope meter || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| Metal Detector (0) || +15%
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+33%'''
|-
|}


  Turns spent 202
Cement Brunette|band-aid {{statrate|21|2|+}}
  Villain items 6
  bands fought 196
  band-aid 44
  bandana 39
  bandolier 57
  bandwagon 12
  banned book 7


-----
Cement Brunette|bandana {{statrate|21|4|+}}
hoyifung05 (#12661) - Level 70 Psion


{|cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1
Cement Brunette|bandolier {{statrate|21|3|+}}
|-
| sticky gloves || +3%
|-
| isotope meter || +10%
|-
| phial of Samuels || +5%
|-
| '''Total''' || '''+18%'''
|-
|}


  Turns spent 202
Cement Brunette|banned book {{statrate|21|1|+}}
  Villain items 5
 
  bands fought 197
De la Sole|band-aid {{statrate|17|2|+}}
  band-aid 33
 
  bandana 36
De la Sole|bandana {{statrate|17|2|+}}
  bandolier 33
 
  bandwagon 7
De la Sole|bandolier {{statrate|17|2|+}}
  banned book 4
 
Dials Mavis|band-aid {{statrate|26|3|+}}
 
Dials Mavis|bandana {{statrate|26|3|+}}
 
Dials Mavis|bandolier {{statrate|26|3|+}}
 
Dials Mavis|bandwagon {{statrate|26|1|+}}
 
Dick's 12-Step Recovery Program|band-aid {{statrate|14|1|+}}
 
Dick's 12-Step Recovery Program|bandana {{statrate|14|3|+}}
 
Dick's 12-Step Recovery Program|bandolier {{statrate|14|4|+}}
 
Edgar Allen|band-aid {{statrate|18|4|+}}
 
Edgar Allen|bandana {{statrate|18|6|+}}
 
Edgar Allen|bandolier {{statrate|18|1|+}}
 
Edgar Allen|banned book {{statrate|18|1|+}}
 
Electric Current|band-aid {{statrate|19|4|+}}
 
Electric Current|bandana {{statrate|19|4|+}}
 
Electric Current|bandolier {{statrate|19|4|+}}
 
Electric Current|banned book {{statrate|19|1|+}}
 
Electrolyte Orchestra|band-aid {{statrate|21|1|+}}
 
Electrolyte Orchestra|bandana {{statrate|21|2|+}}
 
Electrolyte Orchestra|bandolier {{statrate|21|4|+}}
 
Electrolyte Orchestra|bandwagon {{statrate|21|1|+}}
 
Electrolyte Orchestra|banned book {{statrate|21|1|+}}
 
Fjord Girls|band-aid {{statrate|14|2|+}}
 
Fjord Girls|bandolier {{statrate|14|1|+}}
 
Fjord Girls|bandwagon {{statrate|14|1|+}}
 
Los Ramónes|band-aid {{statrate|24|4|+}}
 
Los Ramónes|bandana {{statrate|24|7|+}}
 
Los Ramónes|bandolier {{statrate|24|4|+}}
 
Los Ramónes|bandwagon {{statrate|24|1|+}}
 
Mary Lynn's Mansion|band-aid {{statrate|23|2|+}}
 
Mary Lynn's Mansion|bandana {{statrate|23|3|+}}
 
Mary Lynn's Mansion|bandolier {{statrate|23|3|+}}
 
Mary Lynn's Mansion|bandwagon {{statrate|23|1|+}}
 
Peter Pollen Mary|band-aid {{statrate|22|5|+}}
 
Peter Pollen Mary|bandana {{statrate|22|2|+}}
 
Peter Pollen Mary|bandolier {{statrate|22|4|+}}
 
Refresh Mode|band-aid {{statrate|19|2|+}}
 
Refresh Mode|bandana {{statrate|19|2|+}}
 
Refresh Mode|bandolier {{statrate|19|6|+}}
 
Refresh Mode|bandwagon {{statrate|19|1|+}}
 
Royals and the Tannenbaum|band-aid {{statrate|19|5|+}}
 
Royals and the Tannenbaum|bandolier {{statrate|19|5|+}}
 
Royals and the Tannenbaum|bandwagon {{statrate|19|1|+}}
 
Royals and the Tannenbaum|banned book {{statrate|19|1|+}}
 
Samsara|band-aid {{statrate|15|3|+}}
 
Styled Wallions|band-aid {{statrate|15|2|+}}
 
Styled Wallions|bandolier {{statrate|15|4|+}}
 
Styled Wallions|bandwagon {{statrate|15|1|+}}
 
Styled Wallions|banned book {{statrate|15|2|+}}
 
Televisiontail|band-aid {{statrate|24|5|+}}
 
Televisiontail|bandana {{statrate|24|6|+}}
 
Televisiontail|bandolier {{statrate|24|8|+}}
 
Texas Dog Party|band-aid {{statrate|23|5|+}}
 
Texas Dog Party|bandana {{statrate|23|4|+}}
 
Texas Dog Party|bandolier {{statrate|23|3|+}}
 
The Beatless|band-aid {{statrate|23|3|+}}
 
The Beatless|bandana {{statrate|23|4|+}}
 
The Beatless|bandolier {{statrate|23|6|+}}
 
The Best Offense|band-aid {{statrate|26|3|+}}
 
The Best Offense|bandana {{statrate|26|2|+}}
 
The Best Offense|bandolier {{statrate|26|5|+}}
 
The Best Offense|bandwagon {{statrate|26|2|+}}
 
The Best Offense|banned book {{statrate|26|2|+}}
 
The Strolling Roans|band-aid {{statrate|28|2|+}}
 
The Strolling Roans|bandana {{statrate|28|2|+}}
 
The Strolling Roans|bandolier {{statrate|28|5|+}}
 
The Undecided|band-aid {{statrate|25|5|+}}
 
The Undecided|bandana {{statrate|25|3|+}}
 
The Undecided|bandolier {{statrate|25|2|+}}
 
The Undecided|bandwagon {{statrate|25|2|+}}
 
The Undecided|banned book {{statrate|25|2|+}}
 
The Windows|band-aid {{statrate|28|3|+}}
 
The Windows|bandana {{statrate|28|2|+}}
 
The Windows|bandolier {{statrate|28|5|+}}
 
The Windows|bandwagon {{statrate|28|2|+}}
 
Vain Helen|band-aid {{statrate|21|3|+}}
 
Vain Helen|bandana {{statrate|21|4|+}}
 
Vain Helen|bandolier {{statrate|21|4|+}}
 
Velour Skyscraper|band-aid {{statrate|19|1|+}}
 
Velour Skyscraper|bandana {{statrate|19|2|+}}
 
Velour Skyscraper|bandolier {{statrate|19|3|+}}
 
Velour Skyscraper|bandwagon {{statrate|19|1|+}}
</div>
</div>
 
*band-aid {{statrate|653|95}}
*bandana {{statrate|653|92}}
*bandolier {{statrate|653|109}}
*bandwagon {{statrate|653|17}}
*banned book {{statrate|653|13}}
 
[[User:Cristiona|Cristiona]] ([[User talk:Cristiona|talk]]) 20:51, 9 April 2014 (PDT)




----
----
Patojonas, Reigna, Feathergod, Okarin and Aewyre, with out powers combined, we are Volt- err, Super Spading Squad! ( or Triple S for short :P)
My data for April 2014:
 
*band-aid {{statrate|4155|629}}
*bandana {{statrate|4155|647}}
*bandolier {{statrate|4155|636}}
*bandwagon {{statrate|4155|137}}
*banned book {{statrate|4155|142}}


Jokes aside, from a total of 910 fights across all the above alts, assuming they're all the same I got (also, correct order of drops):
[[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  04:38, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
* 155 band-aids - {{statrate|910|155|+}}%
----
* 131 bandanas - {{statrate|910|131|+}}%
===Total Drops===
* 156 bandoliers - {{statrate|910|156|+}}%
* 27 bandwagons - {{statrate|910|27|+}}%
* 25 banned books - {{statrate|910|25|+}}%


Also, I verified there are no resistance or weakness, just as before [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]] 07:40, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
*band-aid {{statrate|7336|1112}}
*bandana {{statrate|7336|1095}}
*bandolier {{statrate|7336|1166}}
*bandwagon {{statrate|7336|230}}
*banned book {{statrate|7336|219}}


== Travel Oddity ==
== Travel Oddity ==

Latest revision as of 11:38, 10 April 2014

Drops I confirmed:

Foe band-aid bandana bandolier bandwagon banned book
22.86 cm Screws x x x x
404 State x x x x x
Ahab x x x
Aristocrats of Base x x x x x
BTA (Bachman Theft Auto) x x x x x
Buck Cherry x x x
Cement Brunette x x x x
De la Sole x x x
Dick's 12-Step Recovery Program x x x x x
Edgar Allen x x x x x
Electric Current x x x x
Electrolyte Orchestra x x x x x
Los Ramónes x x x x x
Peter Pollen Mary x x x x
Refresh Mode x x x x x
Royals and the Tannenbaum x x x x
Samsara x x x x
Televisiontail x x x x x
The Beatless x x x x x
The Best Offense x x x
The Strolling Rones x x x x
The Undecided x x x
The Windows x x x x x
Vain Helen x x x x
Velour Skyscraper x x x


I'm going to assume they all drop everything, and we can verify next occurrences.
I didn't note specific chip drops, but over all I saw 14-31. Again I'm going to assume it is the same and we can verify next occurrences. --Muhandes 08:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated --Muhandes 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Differences between this and last time

While it might be worth recording for historical reference, I just want everyone to be aware that all of the most recent bands were supposed to be around last time too; Ryme just goofed the code so only 6 or so actually showed up. So it's not so much that more bands were added as we finally got the full even the second time around. Just wanted to get the history down somewhere before we all forget. Not sure how to work it into the page, though. Cristiona

The fact remains that on the previous time we had only 5 bands and this this time we had more. This is what the page says by dividing them into two groups. If you think the reason for this is important, it can be added as a note.--Muhandes 08:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Data

Band (125) -- 22 band-aid / 21 bandana / 23 bandolier / 5 bandwagon / 3 banned book

Assuming everything drops everything at the same rate. ~16.8-18.4% for the first three items (which probably have the same actual rate), 4% for the bandwagon, and 2.4% for the book. Also, I got a range of 17-36 chips today, which adjusting for Winsday means 12-31. --Jesus 10:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if this should be added to each individual page, or just to add a note to the Battle page. Or even if such a small sample is worth including anywhere.

banned book is a new drop for this BotB, maybe a note should be made to that effect? --Hari Seldon 17:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

agreed --Muhandes 17:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Drops spading

Removed old data with item drop modifiers. --hoyifung04 (talk) 20:28, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

Patojonas, Reigna, Feathergod, Okarin and Aewyre, with out powers combined, we are Volt- err, Super Spading Squad! ( or Triple S for short :P)

Jokes aside, from a total of 910 fights across all the above alts, assuming they're all the same I got (also, correct order of drops):

  • 155 band-aids - 17 ± 2.5%
  • 131 bandanas - 14.4 ± 2.3%
  • 156 bandoliers - 17.1 ± 2.5%
  • 27 bandwagons - 3 ± 1.1%
  • 25 banned books - 2.7 ± 1.1%

Also, I verified there are no resistance or weakness, just as before Patojonas 07:40, 28 August 2012 (PDT)

Data for 9 April 2014

  • band-aid (14.4% ± 1.7%)
  • bandana (13.9% ± 1.7%)
  • bandolier (16.5% ± 1.8%)
  • bandwagon (3% ± 0.9%)
  • banned book (2.4% ± 0.8%)

--hoyifung04 (talk) 20:28, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

Big Ole Data Dump April 2014

  • band-aid (14.5% ± 2.8%)
  • bandana (14.1% ± 2.7%)
  • bandolier (16.7% ± 2.9%)
  • bandwagon (2.6% ± 1.2%)
  • banned book (2% ± 1.1%)

Cristiona (talk) 20:51, 9 April 2014 (PDT)


My data for April 2014:

  • band-aid (15.1% ± 1.1%)
  • bandana (15.6% ± 1.1%)
  • bandolier (15.3% ± 1.1%)
  • bandwagon (3.3% ± 0.6%)
  • banned book (3.4% ± 0.6%)

Patojonas 04:38, 10 April 2014 (PDT)

Total Drops

  • band-aid (15.2% ± 0.8%)
  • bandana (14.9% ± 0.8%)
  • bandolier (15.9% ± 0.9%)
  • bandwagon (3.1% ± 0.4%)
  • banned book (3% ± 0.4%)

Travel Oddity


An oddity: you can't travel here in the bandwagon, not even in conjunction with the Mechanic!

I mean, it's a little odd that it can't reach this spot normally, but even with the range extended so that it should be able to, it still will not let you!  --Richard H-G 06:54, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
It also remains the case when using an Aerodynamic Vehicle, with or without the Mechanic...  --Richard H-G 07:08, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
This is an area older than that mechanic, might be why.
I've just checked on Feathergod, and I was able to see the location with the bandwagon+aerodynamic skill, still am out of turns so dunno if I can adventure there.
I'd advise you to submit a bug report just in case ;) Patojonas 07:40, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
Mechanic + 3 range didn't work for joke day either. I believe each individual zone had to be modified to work with mechanic and AV, so event zones probably fell through the cracks. Cristiona 19:48, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
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