Difference between revisions of "Talk:Master Zyx"

Latest revision as of 23:36, 17 January 2014

Which foes are you disguising to get here?

Here's what I hunt for each letter:

A/N ->Fiendish pit, 100% chance of A foe

B/O ->Mouths of Darkness, ~28% chance of O foe. (Cannonball tavern, 33%(?) chance of B foe, depending on which foes you have there.)

C/P ->Big Earl's Big Oil Derrick, ~75% chance of P foe.

D/Q ->Shiloh, ~35% chance of D foe. (Cannonball tavern, 33%(?) chance of D foe, depending on which foes you have there.)

E/R ->Porcelain Bay, 40% chance of R foe.

F/S ->CTC Instructors, 40% chance of S foe.

G/T ->Slums, 60% chance of G foe.

H/U ->Byzantine Interior, 75% chance of H/U foe.

I/V -> CTC Veterans, 40% chance of V foes.

J/W ->Ark of Anarchy, 25% chance of J foe.

K/X ->Byzantine Interior, 25% chance of K foe.

L/Y ->Zion's Tears building, 54% chance of L foe.

M/Z ->Zion's Tears building, ~34% chance of M foe.

These values take combat chances in consideration. Anyone got a better alternative for any of these? Patojonas 17:06, 27 November 2013 (PST)

I hit the Ark for H/U and Zion for M/Z. Cristiona (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2013 (PST)

Also, Big Earl's Big Oil Rig is 100% for C/P (disregarding combat mods).Cristiona (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2013 (PST)

I just replaced those you propose that had a better chance. Just noticed I forgot the hunter-killer in the byzantine interior, which makes it a 75% chance. This list helps :P Patojonas 06:26, 28 November 2013 (PST)

Depending on which Cannonball cycle you're on, it may be the place to go for B/O; Brawling Drunkard and Blasted Loader. Cristiona (talk) 20:32, 29 November 2013 (PST)

Recording Drops

Cris: 4: two yurts, 1 fetch quest, 1 film; all "got"

3: fur, sheet, ghost; all "got"

4: 2 fur, teacup, extra shadow; all "got"

3: umbrella ghost, rainbow shard, carriage; all "got"

4: carriage, rainbow shard, teacup, fur; all "got"

4: yurt, ghost, 2 shards, all got

5: shard, shadow, sheet, fur, throwing star; all got

4: film, teacup, star, yurt; all got

5: 2 shards, star, ghost, carriage; all got

4: 3 yurts, shard; all got

4: star, film, 2 shadow; all got

Pato: 4:quest, carriage, shadow, star, all with "got"

4: zombite, potato, sheet, quest, all with "got"

4: umbrella, teacup, 2 zombites, all with "got"

4: film, teacup, 2 quests, all with "got"

4: quest, umbrella, sheet and fur, all with "got"

4: 2 films, sheet and star, all with "got"

5: carriage, shard, star, shadow and potato, all "got"

4: 2 yurts, teacup annd umbrella, all "got"

5: 2 umbrellas, potato, teacup, film, all "got" (MD, life in the song of keys, Smuggler+judo gloves, short end of the stick and isotope meter)

6: yurt, quest, 2 furs, shadow and potato, all with "got" (MD, nicely aged, life in the song of keys, smuggler, isotope meter, cupid quiver, x-ray and multiversal autohammer)

5: sheet, fur, yurt, film, quest, all with "got" (MD, nicely aged,smuggler+judo gloves, isotope meter and x-ray glasses)

6: 2 carriages, potato, shadow, ghost, star, all with "got" (MD(15), nicely aged, gumshoe, stacked deck, smuggler+judo gloves, isotope meter and cupid quiver)

Sanjuro: 6: fur, zombites, potatopotato, yurt, x-ray film, teacup, all with "got"

6: 2 carriages, 2 potatopotatoes, throwing star, yurt, all "got"

6: 2 fetch quests, carriage, fur, shadow, rainbow shard, all "got"

4: zombites, 2 rainbow shards, fetch quest, all "got" (Echolocation)

4: rainbow shard, 3 costume furs, all "got" (Echolocation, sticky gloves)

4: carriage, 2 prehistoric sheets, umbrella ghost, all "got" (Echolocation, Hobbes' nail boots)

5: 2 rainbow shards, potatopotato, 2 throwing stars, all "got" (Echolocation, Metal detector (10 skill points), shortbow of the stick, sticky gloves)

4: throwing star, carriage, shadow, umbrella ghost, all "got" (Echolocation, shortbow of the stick, sticky gloves)

4: zombites, fetch quest, sheet, yurt, all "got" (Echolocation, sticky gloves, Hobbes' nail boots)

4: teacup, x-ray film, fur, sheet all "got" (Echolocation, sticky gloves, shortbow of the stick, Hobbes' nail boots)

Trog: 4: yurt, potatopotato, and 2 zombites also all with "got". I also got an avatar that I already had so no drop there :-(

OldJanitor: 5: umbrella, shard, x-ray, sheet, teacup, all "got"

Discussion

When defeated, the foe drops 6 random items from the other disguised foes (imp teacup, yeti yurt, etc). Also, you get a random avatar. If you already have the avatar, you get "You also find a tattered killer x-ray costume, but you already have that one." Sanjuro (talk) 23:46, 25 November 2013 (PST)

I think that's up to six random items. Pretty sure I don't always get six, but I'll pay more attention now. Cristiona (talk) 20:58, 26 November 2013 (PST)

Yup. Up to. Just beat him and got 1 x-ray film, 1 zombites, 1 potatopotato, and an avatar. However, all three were "you got an item". So it's possibly 3 assured (I don't ever remember getting less than 3) and then 3 more with (possibly) decreasing odds. Cristiona (talk) 21:11, 26 November 2013 (PST)

Yesterday I got 6 and today only 4, all with the you got an item message. Maybe the number of drops is also random liked the item, but when it sorts 4 all 4 have a 100% chance? I'll try to work out the notes section on the template when I have the time to make these things clear. It'd help loads if people reported how many drops they get when facing it, spading this foe will either be a team effort or just not be done lol Patojonas 17:06, 27 November 2013 (PST)

Cris has noted that the haunted umbrella avatar is different from the foe image. I also got the haunted umbrella avatar today. Sanjuro (talk) 21:23, 28 November 2013 (PST)

I'm wondering if the drops aren't weird. I'm not maxing drops by any means, but I've got a full level smuggler and I'm getting pretty lame drops. Also, all of our recordings have been "got". All mine today were got even when they probably shouldn't have been. I wondering if it's taking something else into account; for instance, my Master Zyx kills have all been with combat items. Cristiona (talk) 20:44, 30 November 2013 (PST)
As far as I can remember, I have always gotten 6 item drops. Most fights, I used combat items exclusively: throwing stars (magnetar, black hole, etc.) and crystals for scrying out loud. Sometimes, I wanted to prolong the fight so I could read all of Master Zyx's hit and miss messages, so I used Justin's magic wand. Sanjuro (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2013 (PST)

I only got 6 drops on my 1st fight with it. 4 drops thereafter just like today, used blackhole, magnetar, disco demolition and 2 crystal for scrying out loud. It likely ignores drop modifiers. Patojonas 07:14, 1 December 2013 (PST)

Today I fought Master Zyx with more than 120 +FT, and got 5 drops (all with "got"). Sanjuro (talk) 22:16, 1 December 2013 (PST)

4 drops as before, with 100 FT in play, all with "got" as well.Patojonas 04:56, 2 December 2013 (PST)

I realized that all of the equipment I removed had +items enchantments. Today I fought Master Zyx with Echolocation (10 skill points) as the only source of +items. I finished the fight the same way as every other time, with combat items. 4 drops "gotten". I'm guessing that your +items determines the number of items "gotten" after the fight, not the odds of getting them. Sanjuro (talk) 21:27, 4 December 2013 (PST)

Today I changed up my equipment so that I had all 26 letters of the alphabet in the equipment names. 5 drops, all "got". Sanjuro (talk) 23:41, 2 December 2013 (PST)

Coincidence or not, today I added 1 source of +items (smuggler+judo gloves, MD, x-ray glasses before +isotope meter this time) and I got 5 drops, all with "got". Patojonas 02:58, 5 December 2013 (PST)

With Echlocation and sticky gloves (+3% items), 4 drops "gotten". Sanjuro (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2013 (PST)

Today I used the same setup mentioned in my last entry but replaced the judo gloves by a cupid's quiver, got 5 as well. Patojonas 02:23, 6 December 2013 (PST)

Today I went there without the isotope meter and got back to 4 drops. Guess we're on to something here.

Isotope back again and back to 5. The stick and the other buff doesn't seem to have much importance. Total of +128%. Patojonas 10:22, 8 December 2013 (PST)

Added a few things today and got 6 drops, total of +158%. Patojonas 04:16, 9 December 2013 (PST)

Today I had +150% drop boost and back to 5 drops. Could this be the threshold? We should check 50/51, 100/101 and 150/151 for the threshold of 4, 5 and 6 drops. Patojonas 03:06, 10 December 2013 (PST)

Today I had 151% and got 6 drops. I'll assume the thresholds in my previous entry as the mechanic. I'll consider this spaded until someone proves it wrong. Patojonas 08:40, 11 December 2013 (PST)

Today with 125% I only got 4 drops, which sucks. Maybe the thresholds are 101, 126 and 151 instead? I'll try with 126 tomorrow. Patojonas 04:22, 14 December 2013 (PST)

Yep, 126% got me 5. I'll adjust the pages. Patojonas 07:18, 15 December 2013 (PST)

Today I got seven items when I defeated Master Zyx: godmother's carriage, prehistoric sheet, evil rainbow shard, alien throwing star, extra shadow, zombites, and X-ray film. I finished the fight the same as most of the previous times, with combat items and weapon attacks. Here is a list of all of the +items I had: Echolocation (10 skill points), Metal detector (10 skill points), shortbow of the stick, sticky gloves, Hobbes' nail boots, Cupid's quiver, and Hero's cape. Sanjuro (talk) 21:46, 16 January 2014 (PST)

And that amounts to less than +100%, there goes my weird theory. You have 7 sources but even that has been proved to to be related. Back to square one :/ Patojonas 04:44, 17 January 2014 (PST)

Just got 7 drops as well, shadow, quest, shard, carriage, sheet and furX2. My +item sources were multiversal autohammer, buckskin coat, sticky gloves, barrel full of monkeys, vacuum tube socks, isotope, cupid quiver, judo gloves+smuggler, light cycle, stacked deck, life in the song of keys, gumshoe, nicely aged and MD(15), which totals +193% item drops.

The day after I got seven drops, I defeated Master Zyx and got six drops: 3 fetch quests, 2 teacups, and 1 throwing star. The exact same setup as the previous day. Sanjuro (talk) 23:36, 17 January 2014 (PST)

I've also faced each disguised foe while using their avatar, and the zombie for master zyx, that didn't get me Master Zyx's avatar. Patojonas 05:18, 17 January 2014 (PST)