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	I believe that the Alchemist and Chemist have the same rates for golden powder/russet lump, and lion/low/furry pills... and that the equipment drop rate for both guards are the same, as well as their stroop drop. But it's way too much of a stretch to think that the same applies to panacea. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 05:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)		I believe that the Alchemist and Chemist have the same rates for golden powder/russet lump, and lion/low/furry pills... and that the equipment drop rate for both guards are the same, as well as their stroop drop. But it's way too much of a stretch to think that the same applies to panacea. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 05:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
	: Updated the item drop format because I'm on my way toward adding another 1000 with my main, and I like to see the confidence increase. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 07:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)		: Updated the item drop format because I'm on my way toward adding another 1000 with my main, and I like to see the confidence increase. --[[User:Jesus|Jesus]] 07:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	My data for a total of 25725 adventures (script excludes villains):
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		+	:aardwolf 2394 {{statrate|19235|2394}}
		+	:alchemist 2437 {{statrate|19235|2437}}
		+	:automaton 2362 {{statrate|19235|2362}}
		+	:castle guard 2368 {{statrate|19235|2368}}
		+	:castle guard, redux 2383 {{statrate|19235|2383}}
		+	:clockwork beetle 2471 {{statrate|19235|2471}}
		+	:clockwork mishmash 2369 {{statrate|19235|2369}}
		+	:mining machinery 2451 {{statrate|19235|2451}}
		+	:Forgot to Mention the Crystal Skulls (noncomb) 3290 {{statrate|6490|3290}}
		+	:Trusty, Dusty, Not-so-portable Laboratory (noncomb) 3200 {{statrate|6490|3200}}
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		+	Combat chance is {{statrate|25725|19235}}. Combats have even chances among themselves, just like the nomcombats. [[User:Patojonas|Patojonas]]  10:12, 11 January 2014 (PST)

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Latest revision as of 10:12, 11 January 2014

There's a level requirement to get in. Don't know what it is, but if you're too low:

Other than rocks, dirt, and more rocks, there doesn't appear to be anything out here. Cristiona

Are there two existing helms in this area, I've received the irrhodium helm 3 times now but I see an article for an irrodhium helm. Which I haven't received. I was thinking of moving the article but I wanted to check just in case it wasn't a misspelling. Doctor Mania 14:29, 25 November 2008 (MST)

"Castle Hundenswein is considered by most players to be the best farming location in the game. For more on farming, see General Farming." What's with this? Firstly, is it actually useful here? If somebody cared what the best chip farming place, they would go to the chip farming guide. You don't go look up a zone, and then find out it's a good place to farm. Secondly, where's your evidence that 'most players' consider it the best farming location? Thirdly, it looks like an ad for your guide (which I have different problems with, itself). Prove me wrong.--Olaf 11:46, 26 November 2008 (MST)

Screw that olaf:
"Castle Hundenswein is considered by most players to be the best farming location in the game. For more on farming, see General Farming."
I nuked the line completely.... there is no consensus on a zone that is less than 2 days old. -- cranky old Malk Can anyone confirm that the Crystal Skulls adventure affects reputation?--Seventhcross 17:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm from Germany, and over here "Schweinehund" (literally piggy-dog) is a somewhat old fashioned insult, that often gets parodied (nazis are particularly prone to use that insult in popular culture). Maybe add a note about that? The whole are seems to be in the image of medieval germany and europe. --Alarion 16:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Added --Muhandes 16:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Let's avoid an edit war, shall we? It's primarily a references to Castle Wolfenstein through a rather convoluted path that incorporates a bit of linguistics and a bit of sound-matching. Specifically, "wein" meaning "wine", which could be served in a "stein" (if you were gauche), and which also sounds like "stein"; and "hunden" meaning hound, which is similar to a wolf. Cristiona

I tried to make everyone happy and keep relevant references. --Muhandes 06:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, just my cup of German tea: It could be "Hundens Wein", which would be "wine of a dog" (rather gramatically incorrect). That doesn't make a lot of sense, but oh well.

You cannot serve "Wein" in a "stein", however - that would be serving wine in a rock or stone, which I simply have never heard of. There is "weinstein" - little rock like stuff that can be found at the bottom of a glass or bottle of wine (called Potassium bitartrate in English). Anyhow, that reference makes absolutely no sense to a native German speaker. Maybe it's better suited for English speaking players.

Chip drops

Just want to add a note... All the values here fit in with the ± 25% of XP pattern that the Docks show. I have confirmed all of these except for the Castle Guard's upper limit of 269; the highest I've actually seen is 267. Given that everything else fits... and that it took me about 200 encounters to confirm the Chemist's lowest value... I'm going to call it good enough. I've still got ~1300 turns left at the Castle, but figured I'd get that out there. --Jesus 04:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Data

Aardwolf (379)
Alchemist (367) 108 golden / 80 low / 69 lion / 20 ingot / 86 panacea
Automaton (372) 97 socket / 111 gauntlet / 56 core
Castle Guard (374) 119 stroop / 80 xbow / 66 helm
Guard, Redux (375) 105 stroop / 78 axe / 81 plate
Chemist (516) 153 russet / 99 low / 96 furry / 24 ingot / 51 panacea
Beetle (363) 154 core
Mishmash (387) 114 core
Mining (379) 34 russet / 32 golden / 35 black / 36 green / 41 grey
door # three (488)

4000 turns

I believe that the Alchemist and Chemist have the same rates for golden powder/russet lump, and lion/low/furry pills... and that the equipment drop rate for both guards are the same, as well as their stroop drop. But it's way too much of a stretch to think that the same applies to panacea. --Jesus 05:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Updated the item drop format because I'm on my way toward adding another 1000 with my main, and I like to see the confidence increase. --Jesus 07:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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My data for a total of 25725 adventures (script excludes villains):

aardwolf 2394 (12.4% ± 0.5%)

alchemist 2437 (12.7% ± 0.5%)

automaton 2362 (12.3% ± 0.5%)

castle guard 2368 (12.3% ± 0.5%)

castle guard, redux 2383 (12.4% ± 0.5%)

clockwork beetle 2471 (12.8% ± 0.5%)

clockwork mishmash 2369 (12.3% ± 0.5%)

mining machinery 2451 (12.7% ± 0.5%)

Forgot to Mention the Crystal Skulls (noncomb) 3290 (50.7% ± 1.2%)

Trusty, Dusty, Not-so-portable Laboratory (noncomb) 3200 (49.3% ± 1.2%)

Combat chance is (74.8% ± 0.5%). Combats have even chances among themselves, just like the nomcombats. Patojonas 10:12, 11 January 2014 (PST)